Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:46 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Another question. Most of the time VirginRunner is at max CPU, > sending address removal notifications. I have already set the lists > to zero bounce notifications. Is there a separate config item for > "you have been removed" messages?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using mailman for one-time use special demographic lists...

2005-12-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:48 PM -0500 2005-12-21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now as a point of comparison, here is how I currently handle the > above situation with ListProc: > > I have a standing generic list, configured for one-way > announcements, let's call it "UNH.Announce". I use a Perl > scri

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman watchdog - status report

2005-12-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:02 PM -0800 2005-12-21, Con Wieland wrote: > I recently had some (more) problem's that Mark Shapiro helped me out > with. In that exchange I asked about a watchdog type program to help > in early problem detection. Mark pointed me to: > > Brad's "daily status report" >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:40 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > I've got some questions on a mailman server that's currently > performing non-optimally. If you've got a large list, the first thing you need to do is to search the FAQ and the archives for the words "performance" and "large". >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ross Vandegrift wrote: > >Another question. Most of the time VirginRunner is at max CPU, >sending address removal notifications. I have already set the lists >to zero bounce notifications. Is there a separate config item for >"you have been removed" messages? There's no config setting for this.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 05:40:31PM -0500, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > The server has four lists of about 200,000 recipients each. They are > announce-only subscription lists that receive an occasional post. > Despite being low traffic, we have some consistency issues. Another question. Most of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using mailman for one-time use special demographiclists...

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >We're planning on moving off our our creaky old ListProc MLM and >moving to something with a web interface and an active community. >I'm seriously looking at mailman as future MLM for all our >mailing lists (~600). > >I was hoping somebody could describe, in broad arm-wa

[Mailman-Users] Using mailman for one-time use special demographic lists...

2005-12-21 Thread Bill . Costa
Dear mailman Folks, We're planning on moving off our our creaky old ListProc MLM and moving to something with a web interface and an active community. I'm seriously looking at mailman as future MLM for all our mailing lists (~600). I was hoping somebody could describe, in broad arm-waving terms

[Mailman-Users] [FIXED] Re: Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:04:31 -0800 Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've searched the FAQ and cannot find the answer to a problem I'm > having. > > I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian Sarge. > All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or more > correctly,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Create mail list which user cannot un-subscribe

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Elvis Fernandes wrote: > >I am trying to create a mail list where users DO NOT have the choice to >un-subscribe. >Is there a way that this can be accomplished in mailman? Admin->Privacy options...->Subscription rules->unsubscribe_policy = Yes unsubscribe_policy (privacy): Is the list moderator's

[Mailman-Users] Create mail list which user cannot un-subscribe

2005-12-21 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Hello, I am trying to create a mail list where users DO NOT have the choice to un-subscribe. Is there a way that this can be accomplished in mailman? Any help is appreciated. Regards Elvis -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] [mailman-users] receiving list mail from account towhich mail cannot be delivered

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I see two ways to do this: >1) Make it a list member with 'nomail' checked. >2) When this account first tried to send e-mail to a list, it was not a >member, the note was held, & the moderator was notified. On the >moderators html page (/admindb/), I can check the b

[Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hello everyone, I've got some questions on a mailman server that's currently performing non-optimally. The server has four lists of about 200,000 recipients each. They are announce-only subscription lists that receive an occasional post. Despite being low traffic, we have some consistency issues

Re: [Mailman-Users] can root start qrunners? backups and disasterrecovery ???s

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hugh Esco wrote: > >I want to write a perl or shell script to occasionally check that the qrunners >are still running and if they are not, to restart them. (I can't afford >downtime like this). My question is this. Since each instance uses a >distinct uid and gid, is it possible to have root

Re: [Mailman-Users] help: web interface broken "MailmanAdministrativeDatabase Error"

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: >Kevin Callahan wrote: >> >>Here's the issue. I'm administrating 9 domains on a Verio VPS. Each >>domain has its own install of Mailman and have been running >>flawlessly for months. Last night, the physical server was taken down >>for a memory upgrade; today 6 of the 9 do

[Mailman-Users] can root start qrunners? backups and disaster recovery ???s

2005-12-21 Thread Hugh Esco
Hello all: Thanks (particularly Mr. Sapiro) for the help yesterday. I'm working on a server which is expected to host multiple instances of mailman in the next week or so. In the interest of privilege separation, each instance is being built to run as a distinct system user, specific to th

Re: [Mailman-Users] help: web interface broken "Mailman AdministrativeDatabase Error"

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kevin Callahan wrote: > >Here's the issue. I'm administrating 9 domains on a Verio VPS. Each >domain has its own install of Mailman and have been running >flawlessly for months. Last night, the physical server was taken down >for a memory upgrade; today 6 of the 9 domains no longer list email

[Mailman-Users] [mailman-users] receiving list mail from account to which mail cannot be delivered

2005-12-21 Thread webster
So, I have a made-up 'bot' account which needs to send e-mail to some of my lists, but any e-mail delivered to its address will bounce. I see two ways to do this: 1) Make it a list member with 'nomail' checked. 2) When this account first tried to send e-mail to a list, it was not a member, the

[Mailman-Users] mailman watchdog - status report

2005-12-21 Thread Con Wieland
Hello, I recently had some (more) problem's that Mark Shapiro helped me out with. In that exchange I asked about a watchdog type program to help in early problem detection. Mark pointed me to: Brad's "daily status report"

[Mailman-Users] help: web interface broken "Mailman Administrative Database Error"

2005-12-21 Thread Kevin Callahan
Hello All, This is my first post and I'm new to the list; apologies if this has been addressed already, though I didn't find any references in the archives or via google. Here's the issue. I'm administrating 9 domains on a Verio VPS. Each domain has its own install of Mailman and have been

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Raquel Rice wrote: a 'private' in the src/ directory, >> how does it compare to 'private.bad'. >>=20 >> You could just try >>=20 >> mv private.bad private >>=20 >> and see what happens. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Sapiro=20 > >It seems to me that the problem lies with the >Debian maintainer of Mailman.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:38:13 -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel Rice wrote: > > > >I do have a file named "private.bad" in the cgi-bin directory. I > >have no idea why it's named that way. (in other words, I didn't > >do it) > > How did you install Mailman? If you installed f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hugh Esco wrote: > edit your apache config to read: > Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/ > not what you now have pointing directly to the private/ subdirectory. It needs to be Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ not Alias /piperma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Raquel Rice wrote: > >I do have a file named "private.bad" in the cgi-bin directory. I >have no idea why it's named that way. (in other words, I didn't do >it) How did you install Mailman? If you installed from source and you still have the directory you ran configure and make in, what is in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Hugh Esco
Try: cp cgi-bin/private.bad cgi-bin/private edit your apache config to read: Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/ not what you now have pointing directly to the private/ subdirectory. restart apache then test again. -- Hugh On Wed, 21 Dec 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:18:35 -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel Rice wrote: > > > >And therein lies the problem. The problem is that the URL > >http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ doesn't > >go anywhere. All I get is my web server 404 page. > > Well, I do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Raquel Rice wrote: > >And therein lies the problem. The problem is that the URL >http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ doesn't go >anywhere. All I get is my web server 404 page. Well, I don't get exactly that, but I see something is wrong. If I go to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:51:14 -0600 Dan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ IS the > correct URL for private archives. > > Dan And that's the problem. It goes nowhere. -- Raquel

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:50:10 -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel Rice wrote: > > > >But these were supposed to be private archives. > > If the archives are supposed to be private, you should be > accessing them via the >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Raquel Rice wrote: > >But these were supposed to be private archives. If the archives are supposed to be private, you should be accessing them via the url and not via the link which is O

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Raquel Rice wrote: > >On the list info page, >http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends , this is >where the link "MyFriends Archives" points: > http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ >rather than to: > http://lists.thericehouse.net/pipermail/myfriends/ If

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:19:21 -0600 Dan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Raquel Rice wrote: > > On the list info page, > > http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends , this > > is where the link "MyFriends Archives" points: > > http://lists.th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:19:21 -0600 Dan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Raquel Rice wrote: > > On the list info page, > > http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends , this > > is where the link "MyFriends Archives" points: > > http://lists.th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:56:58 -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel Rice wrote: > > > >I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian > >Sarge.=20 All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or > >more correctly, access to the archives. The archives are created

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to silently, automatically reject ALL"implicit destination" messages?

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Alex Schuilenburg wrote: > >Hopefully sometime I will get the time to clean this up to actually make >this an option, rather than modify the normal behaviour. i.e. The >options for "require_explicit_destination" become > No | Hold for Approval | Reject | Discard > >Does anyone else think

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Raquel Rice wrote: > >I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian Sarge.=20 >All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or more >correctly, access to the archives. The archives are created but >they cannot be accessed because the appropriate "archive variables" >don't seem

[Mailman-Users] Archives

2005-12-21 Thread Raquel Rice
I've searched the FAQ and cannot find the answer to a problem I'm having. I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian Sarge. All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or more correctly, access to the archives. The archives are created but they cannot be accessed because

Re: [Mailman-Users] Doubt with python and mailman

2005-12-21 Thread Xabier GuitiƔn
Hi again! I've updated mailman and python to the latest versions and the problem remainded for sometime, but now everything is working fine, and nobody has told us nothing about not receiving the mail. So i think everything went ok and the info is useful in case something goes wrong in t

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce disable messages even when getting mail

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dave B wrote: > >The log does show that bounces are being recorded for my address. It >shows the bounce message and score and then shows that account was >disabled. There are also several (10 - 20) entries per list per day >stating that address had received a bounce for that day and also >sever

Re: [Mailman-Users] Any problem in listening to localhost for anannouncement mailing list instead of my ip.ad.re.ss?

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Munzir Taha wrote: > >This is the first time I install a mailing list so I am not sure whether what >I am doing is correct or had some side effects. I installed mailman in my >lists.mydomain.com where > >lists.mydomain.com. 3600IN MX 10 lists.mydomain.com. >mydomain.com. > >an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs. Apache - please help

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: > >> What you need is just what it says. Rerun configure with >> --with-cgi-gid=Administrators instead of --with-cgi-gid=mm >> (and the rest of the options the same as before) and then run >> 'make install'. > >I will try it. If this proves to work, then there are some serious >chang

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: > >Now, when I try to add a list, I get a python error! > >$ newlist --urlhost=ahualoa.net --emailhost=ahualoa.net friends >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Initial friends password: >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/newlist", line 254, in ? >main() > File "/usr/

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce disable messages even when getting mail

2005-12-21 Thread Dave B
>> Have you looked in the bounce log to see if bounces are being recorded >> for your address? The log does show that bounces are being recorded for my address. It shows the bounce message and score and then shows that account was disabled. There are also several (10 - 20) entries per list per d

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
> -Original Message- > From: John Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 December 2005 17:03 > To: Mark Cave-Ayland > Cc: 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web > interface (cut) > Then I don't think I can help :-(

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-21 Thread Ben
Hi folks, Some more information. I tried to banish all knowledge of the local hostname by providing the --with-mailhost and --with-urlhost arguments at the time of configure: $ ./configure --with-mail-gid=mm --with-cgi-gid=Administrators --with-groupname=mm --with-cgi-ext=.exe --with-mailhost=ah

[Mailman-Users] Any problem in listening to localhost for an announcement mailing list instead of my ip.ad.re.ss?

2005-12-21 Thread Munzir Taha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sir, This is the first time I install a mailing list so I am not sure whether what I am doing is correct or had some side effects. I installed mailman in my lists.mydomain.com where lists.mydomain.com. 3600IN MX 10 lists.mydo