[Mailman-Users] abort mailing in progress?

Hi folks, I have Mailman 2.1.7 and I have already shut down the queue daemons, but I am looking how to abort the mailing and stop any more messages from going out. The list has about 45,000 subscribers, and it looks like a fair number of requests haven't been forwarded to postfix yet. Thanks,

[Mailman-Users] "disable_dns_lookups = yes" is a very bad idea

Speaking ripe from experience, the Mailman FAQ suggests turning on "disable_dns_lookups = yes" to improve the performance of Postfix with Mailman, which kind of makes sense. BUT in Postfix, this disables all MX lookups. So, unless you are going indirectly through a relay that is going to hand

[Mailman-Users] ENOUGH ALREADY !!!!!!!!!! Was Re: GMane?

This topic is no longer germaine (pun intended) to the purpose of this list, and I am getting really tired of clicking the delete button. -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/m

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 1:38 AM -0500 2006-02-17, John A. Martin wrote: > Did you consider selecting the option to have Gmane do address > obfuscation? I suppose that would require someone at Gmane to > intervene if your list had been subscribed by a third party. Considering the rest of the things that Gm

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 1:37 AM -0500 2006-02-17, John A. Martin wrote: > I'm not sure I follow you here. How do you think Gmane should know _a > priori_ whether someone subscribing a list to Gmane is actually acting > for the list owner? Yes, either acting directly on behalf of the list owner(s), or at

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 1:35 AM -0500 2006-02-17, John A. Martin wrote: > Gmane offers a public service, available to anyone, not just to some > "private community". It's the community of their users. It doesn't matter that anyone could theoretically join this community, the fact of the matter is that mo

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 1:34 AM -0500 2006-02-17, John A. Martin wrote: > Lars said, "The mailman people requested that they be removed", see > . IIRC, we requested that they be removed over a year ago, the last time we ran into this issue -- and when Lars found

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 1:32 AM -0500 2006-02-17, John A. Martin wrote: > You would have one look at a FAQ Wizard after seeing the specific > unqualified assertion above? Last time I looked, the Mailman FAQs > 1.11 and 1.18 recommend Gmane along with Mail-archive while 1.11 notes > that the latter runs Google ads

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 2:34 PM +0900 2006-02-17, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I don't think that's a useful question to ask. Open source is not > about paybacks. (Although copyleft clearly is, to many people.) Open > source is about payforwards. I do something for you, and you do > something for somebody else

Re: [Mailman-Users] abort mailing in progress?

Jonathan Dill wrote: > >I have Mailman 2.1.7 and I have already shut down the queue daemons, How? If you did this normally via mailmanctl, I suspect delivery to postfix completed. >but >I am looking how to abort the mailing and stop any more messages from >going out. The list has about 45,000

[Mailman-Users] abort mailing in progress?

Hi folks, I have Mailman 2.1.7 and I have already shut down the queue daemons, but I am looking how to abort the mailing and stop any more messages from going out. The list has about 45,000 subscribers, and it looks like a fair number of requests haven't been forwarded to postfix yet. Thanks, Jo

Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > >And it has come up here also that SpamAssassin or some such should be in the >pipeline first. Blindly replying to all of it is bad. Mailman's SpamDetect module which processes Privacy options...->Spam filters is first in the pipeline. Beyond that SpamAssassin an

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

At 10:17 AM -0800 2006-02-17, Mark Sapiro wrote: > These delays were between bag.python.org and servers named > smtp-*.xs4all.nl (which is I think where python.org is hosted). So > missing posts, posts out of sequence etc. from approximately noon GMT > on FEB 16 to about noon GMT on Feb 17 app

Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: > The reason they're still asking on the list? Because they sent > messages on this subject months ago which were simply discarded instead of > being bounced, and they were never notified. Then someone should be going through them by hand, or put th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator permissions or rights

Ronald Nissley wrote: > >Fair enough...the issue is that I want some of the moderators to also have >access to membership management without access to list functionality. >Is there a good way to limit what a list admin can do? You can limit the pages available in the admin interface, but this is

Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

At 8:53 AM -0500 2006-02-17, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Tim Perdue wrote: > >> I'm getting flooded under requests to approve spammer posts to >> lists.gforge.org and wondered if there was a way to auto-reject >> non-member posts instead of sending them to me for appr

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

Just to try to clear the record here. I noticed in a roughly 24 hour period beginning yesterday morning and ending this morning, there were delays of many hours in delivering my email copies of my posts and some other posts. These delays were between bag.python.org and servers named smtp-*.xs4all.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

james edwards wrote: >I am new to mailman and am getting these error messages where this job runs. >I just took over this position from a sysadmin >who died suddenly & have not run mailman b4. Can someone please get me an >idea as to what is happening/wrong here ? > >james > > >[Mailman] Cron <[EM

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

All this discussion is starting to sound like a game of "Who struck John?" (BTW, before this, I'd never heard of Gmane.) Taking what everyone's said a face value, Gmane provides a service that some people like. The admins/owners of the MM list don't like Gmane's policies, thus don't want to part

[Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

I am new to mailman and am getting these error messages where this job runs. I just took over this position from a sysadmin who died suddenly & have not run mailman b4. Can someone please get me an idea as to what is happening/wrong here ? james [Mailman] Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /usr/lib/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

Patrick Bogen wrote in response to Luke Shannon >This all sounds fine. It's trivially easy to add a list of email >addresses to a list (there's a textbox on the admin page that you dump >them into and click a button) Or you can upload a file through the same mass subscribe interface or use the c

Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kalin mintchev wrote: > so how do i avoid the confirmation? i would like to just send an email to > the list using a form and the address in the form should be added to the > list without further processing. > i also realize that this has been discusse

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator permissions or rights

Ronald Nissley wrote: >I have the same question as a poster of nearly 3 years ago. So far I haven't >found any replies or an answer in a FAQ. You can view the old post at: > >http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-May/029009.html > >...and here is the body: > >"Can I give the list mod

Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

Christopher X. Candreva wrote: >On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Tim Perdue wrote: > >> I'm getting flooded under requests to approve spammer posts to >> lists.gforge.org and wondered if there was a way to auto-reject >> non-member posts instead of sending them to me for approval. > >If you do anything, ple

Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

kalin mintchev wrote: > >the other option is to lose those clients Chris and Brad have given the arguments against this and I agree with them, but if you insist on doing this anyway, see -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator permissions or rights

At least as a partial answer, I do not believe there is a way to change this without patching the mailman code (at least, not something obvious that I've seen.) Someone else may know more/better. - Patrick Bogen On 2/17/06, Ronald Nissley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the same question as

Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

In the Administrative Interface, under Privacy Options, refer to the 'generic_nonmember_action' field. Alternatively, if these spam messages seem to be coming from one place, you might be better off using 'discard_these_nonmembers'. - Patrick Bogen On 2/17/06, Christopher X. Candreva <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Mailman-Users] IOError in Mailman.

Andy wrote: > >I asked admin to install Mailman, but he has the following problem: > >=== >Jan 01 00:33:33 2006 (27243) IOError reading list extension: [Errno 20] >Not a directory: '/usr/local/mailman/data/sitelist.cf\ >g/extend.py' >Jan 01 00:33:33 2006 mailmanctl(27243): Site list is missing:

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

This all sounds fine. It's trivially easy to add a list of email addresses to a list (there's a textbox on the admin page that you dump them into and click a button) Mass-adding the lists is a bit trickier, I think. However, if they're all basically the same you can generate one configuration file

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

Ok, Mailman is looking like the solution to my problems. To get this going I need to create mailman lists from my existing email addresses to vendor mappings in the MySQL DB (I don't want everyone already signed up to have to re-subscribe). Is it easy to import a list to Mailman? Once I have my

[Mailman-Users] Moderator permissions or rights

I have the same question as a poster of nearly 3 years ago. So far I haven't found any replies or an answer in a FAQ. You can view the old post at: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-May/029009.html ...and here is the body: "Can I give the list moderator more permissions ? say i

Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Tim Perdue wrote: > I'm getting flooded under requests to approve spammer posts to > lists.gforge.org and wondered if there was a way to auto-reject > non-member posts instead of sending them to me for approval. If you do anything, please discard and not reject. The from a

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "jam" == John A Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sjt> I missed at least one of your posts, receiving Brad's reply sjt> to it almost 24 hours in advance of your post. Even today sjt> this is common for netnews. jam> Sorry, Gmane is not netnews. Gmane is not Usenet. OK, s

[Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

I'm getting flooded under requests to approve spammer posts to lists.gforge.org and wondered if there was a way to auto-reject non-member posts instead of sending them to me for approval. Thanks, Tim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, kalin mintchev wrote: > right... spamming about cancer awareness or wedding dresses si... > i kinda explained that i'm aware of this argument... > > the other option is to lose those clients The other option is to risk being put on a blacklist for running a non-com

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

Actually it doesn't really need to be in MySQL. As long as Mailman handles the add and removing of addresses to a list and creates an alias for each list, my java program could be tweaked to send mail to all alias rather than a set of email addresses (as it does now). Thanks, Luke >From: Mar

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> Clearly, there is a benefit here to the Gmane users, Brad> potentially even a commercial benefit. But what do they Brad> contribute back to the larger Mailman community? I don't think that's a useful question to ask. Ope

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles > "Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?" > Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:27:41 +0100 Brad> At 10:06 PM -0500 2006-02-15, John A. Martin wrote: >> Absent a searchable archive, would you like to give a pointer >> for someone that does not read every article every day in

[Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

hi all... i have a set up of mailman that hosts a lot of email lists. recently more and more people want to have a list but a lot of them don't want their users to go through all the subscription-confirmation-welcome messages process. i took off the welcome messages but not sure how to avoid th

Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

> At 8:24 PM -0500 2006-02-16, kalin mintchev wrote: >> i have a set up of mailman that hosts a lot of email lists. recently >> more >> and more people want to have a list but a lot of them don't want their users to go through all the subscription-confirmation-welcome messages process. i took of

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "sjt" == Stephen J Turnbull > "Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?" > Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:56:46 +0900 > "jam" == John A Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sjt> I missed at least one of your posts, receiving Brad's reply sjt> to it almost 24 hours in advance of your post. Even t

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

Luke Shannon wrote: >Actually it doesn't really need to be in MySQL. As long as Mailman handles >the add and removing of addresses to a list and creates an alias for each >list, my java program could be tweaked to send mail to all alias rather than >a set of email addresses (as it does now).

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing incoming mail

At 12:07 AM + 2006-02-17, Martin Wheeler wrote: > This question *must* have been asked many times before -- how *does* one > moderate / edit incoming mail on a mailman list? Via the web, you don't. The only solution is to moderate via e-mail, and to have the moderator submit an al

Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

At 8:24 PM -0500 2006-02-16, kalin mintchev wrote: > i have a set up of mailman that hosts a lot of email lists. recently more > and more people want to have a list but a lot of them don't want their > users to go through all the subscription-confirmation-welcome messages > process. i took of

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "JC" == JC Dill > "Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?" > Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:45:44 -0800 JC> When we first asked Gmane to not gateway this list, one of the JC> issues was that while our own archives munge the email address JC> of list posters, the Gmane feed didn't do any mungin

[Mailman-Users] Editing incoming mail

This question *must* have been asked many times before -- how *does* one moderate / edit incoming mail on a mailman list? (Google searches are not much use -- I must be searching for the wrong thing.) Any pointers *much* appreciated. [Does one maybe have to stuff everything into a MySQL databa

Re: [Mailman-Users] emails being sent to moderators

Patrick Bogen wrote: >Probably a dumb question, but can you report the values of >admin_immed_notify (I think this is [one of] the applicable >setting[s]?) > >Also, maybe tail your mail server's logs and mailman's logs and see if >you can trace what's happening when you send a message that gets >m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing incoming mail

Martin Wheeler wrote: >This question *must* have been asked many times before -- how *does* one >moderate / edit incoming mail on a mailman list? -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Fr

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

Sounds like you just want a mailman list that only one 'person' (in this case, your Java program) can send to... - Patrick Bogen On 2/16/06, Luke Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually it doesn't really need to be in MySQL. As long as Mailman handles > the add and removing of addresses to