Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 00:34 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 12:51 AM -0400 2006-09-14, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > Looking up MX records is also the job of an MUA, and Mailman is very > > much like an MUA, albeit on steroids. IMHO of course. > > I don't know of an MUA on the planet that looks u

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:51 AM -0400 2006-09-14, Jim Popovitch wrote: > Looking up MX records is also the job of an MUA, and Mailman is very > much like an MUA, albeit on steroids. IMHO of course. I don't know of an MUA on the planet that looks up MX records. Check your RFCs. Checking MX records is most defini

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 23:23 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 1:53 PM -0400 2006-09-13, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > The problem with this approach is that Mailman will still only use the > > single specified mail server, rather than processing a list of > > mailservers defined as MX records for a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:57 PM -0400 2006-09-13, Jay Vaagen wrote: > If I understand all this correctly, there's no current feature that will > allow mailman to send mail from the correct virtual domain's hostname, and > not localhost.. correct? Mailman is a Mailing List Management system, not an MTA. The kind o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:53 PM -0400 2006-09-13, Jim Popovitch wrote: > The problem with this approach is that Mailman will still only use the > single specified mail server, rather than processing a list of > mailservers defined as MX records for a DNS domain. Mailman is a Mailing List Management system. It is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Debian/Ubuntu Mailman Package

2006-09-13 Thread John W. Baxter
On 9/12/06 11:26 AM, "Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Version 2.1.5 is rather old. I believe there are some security issues > that have been fixed since that release. IMO it is a good idea to use > the latest version to preclude as many potential issues as possible. The security fixes are ve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread stephen
Bretton Vine writes: > What gives? What is odd is that some files with " ' " in the > filename go to the list while others don't. I've tried changing > characterset in mail client to no avail. This is a completely different issue IIRC. For reasons I don't think I've ever seen explained, the =

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi, > >> The email-3.0.x in Python 2.4 is not suitable for mailman. Mailman >> 2.1.8(or 9) works best with the email-2.5.7(or 8) which is the bug fix >> version of Python 2.3 library. > > I see. How can I fix that? > I suspect the debian people have omitted the mailman-2.5.x package from thei

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Probably the easiest way to get the 'multiple' domains that you want > is to run one instance of mailman for each domain. Yoy can then configure > the smtphost for that specific domain. And to second this part of Carl's e-mail, this is exactly what I'm doing on my end. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Hans-Juergen Beie
Hi, Am Mi, 13.09.2006, 14:45, schrieb Tokio Kikuchi: >> In short: >> Replace the first line in /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests >> # ! /usr/bin/python >> by >> #! /usr/bin/python2.3 >> if you have a Python2.3 installed. >> >> As this problem appeared here (debian/etch, Mailman 2.1.8-2) after

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Jay Vaagen wrote: > If I understand all this correctly, there's no current feature that will > allow mailman to send mail from the correct virtual domain's hostname, and > not localhost.. correct? As I understand the current implimentation of virtual domains, mu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/13/06, Jay Vaagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, so after reading all this it becomes clear to me that this is not going > to be an easy fix.. > > If I understand all this correctly, there's no current feature that will > allow mailman to send mail from the correct virtual domain's hostname,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Jay Vaagen
Ok, so after reading all this it becomes clear to me that this is not going to be an easy fix.. If I understand all this correctly, there's no current feature that will allow mailman to send mail from the correct virtual domain's hostname, and not localhost.. correct? Let's say I have these mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Jim Popovitch wrote: > The problem with this approach is that Mailman will still only use the > single specified mail server, rather than processing a list of > mailservers defined as MX records for a DNS domain. If I have a domain name for which there are 3 MXs setup in a Round Robin configur

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
Patrick Bogen wrote: > On 9/13/06, Jay Vaagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How can I set mailman to use the MX record instead of localhost (or one >> static address) for sending mail? > I've added FAQ 4.72 > > as a simple answe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:54 AM -0400 2006-09-13, Jay Vaagen wrote: > How can I set mailman to use the MX record instead of localhost (or one > static address) for sending mail? You don't. Mailman is not an MTA, so it knows nothing of MX records. Maybe you can tell us more about where you want to get, and then

Re: [Mailman-Users] Alternative to Mailman

2006-09-13 Thread Kucera, Rich
> > > use MySQL > > What for? > > Share some of the information with other applications, eg: name, email, > password. Well if you're talking strategic SQL access, either of these (*if only* they supported ODBC calling mechanisms) you could bolt it onto mailman and have at it: http://gadfly.source

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/13/06, Jay Vaagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I set mailman to use the MX record instead of localhost (or one > static address) for sending mail? I've added FAQ 4.72 as a simple answer for this. P.S., to the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 2.1.9

2006-09-13 Thread Bretton Vine
Barry Warsaw said the following on 2006/09/13 04:00 PM: > On behalf of the GNU Mailman development team, I'm please to announce > GNU Mailman 2.1.9. This is primarily a security and bug fix release > and it is highly recommended that all sites upgrade to this version. Excellent news, just on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Alternative to Mailman

2006-09-13 Thread Alain Williams
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 11:59:04AM -0400, Kucera, Rich wrote: > > DadaMail and other packages. We need to be > > able to send up to 100,000 at a shot, announce only, use MySQL > > Have you dbdump-ed a list pickle? Do you really want all that in MySQL? > What for? Share some of the information w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Alternative to Mailman

2006-09-13 Thread Kucera, Rich
Hello, Looking at similar problems in the future...interesting to think about. > We're looking at PHPlist, PHPList is all web-based, isn't it? Some clients may want to respond over email. > DadaMail and other packages. We need to be > able to send up to 100,000 at a shot, announce only, use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman upgrade

2006-09-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/13/06, Kory Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I go directly from Mailman 2.1.6 to Mailman 2.1.9 by doing the following > ./configure > make install Yes*. (You need to make sure you run ./configure with the same options you ran it with originally, otherwise you might end up with dupli

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Bretton Vine
Tokio Kikuchi said the following on 2006/09/13 02:45 PM: > Can you try these and check the email version? > The email-3.0.x in Python 2.4 is not suitable for mailman. Mailman > 2.1.8(or 9) works best with the email-2.5.7(or 8) which is the bug fix > version of Python 2.3 library. Working under

[Mailman-Users] Virtual sites

2006-09-13 Thread Jay Vaagen
How can I set mailman to use the MX record instead of localhost (or one static address) for sending mail? Thanks! Jay Vaagen Certified Technician Abadata Computer Corporation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 989 883 3411 Fax: 989 883 9313 --

[Mailman-Users] Mailman upgrade

2006-09-13 Thread Kory Wheatley
Can I go directly from Mailman 2.1.6 to Mailman 2.1.9 by doing the following ./configure make install -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic creation of new lists

2006-09-13 Thread Frederik Questier
Op Wednesday 13 September 2006 13:30, schreef Frederik Questier: > Hi, > > for our University I want to setup automatically mailinglists for each > course and study year (some 10.000 mailing lists). > > I wonder, is something available for this aim? > > I could adapt newlist to make it non-interact

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 2.1.9

2006-09-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > The download link on http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/download.html > pointing to http://www.list.org/mailman.tar.gz doesn't work. > > The download link on http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/d

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 2.1.9

2006-09-13 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On behalf of the GNU Mailman development team, I'm please to announce > GNU Mailman 2.1.9. This is primarily a security and bug fix release > and it is highly recommended that all sites upgrade to this version. > Mailman 2.1.9 also contains support for

[Mailman-Users] Arquives sorting problems

2006-09-13 Thread Mário Filipe
Hello Some users of our mailing lists are complaining that when using the archives, sorted by date, some messages are skipped when using the "Next message" and "Previous message" links. For example: Message 1 Message 2 Message 3 Message 4 Message 5 Message 6 Message 7 Message 8 Message 9 Message

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 2.1.9

2006-09-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the GNU Mailman development team, I'm please to announce GNU Mailman 2.1.9. This is primarily a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.9 also contains support f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Oleg Dambaev
Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> In short: >> Replace the first line in /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests >> # ! /usr/bin/python >> by >> #! /usr/bin/python2.3 >> if you have a Python2.3 installed. >> >> As this problem appeared here (debian/etch, Mailman 2.1.8-2) after >> upgrading Python 2.3 to 2.4 th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
> In short: > Replace the first line in /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests > # ! /usr/bin/python > by > #! /usr/bin/python2.3 > if you have a Python2.3 installed. > > As this problem appeared here (debian/etch, Mailman 2.1.8-2) after > upgrading Python 2.3 to 2.4 this seems to be reasonable. H

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Hans-Juergen Beie
Am Mi, 13.09.2006, 12:58, schrieb Hans-Juergen Beie: > Am Do, 7.09.2006, 15:57, schrieb Mário Filipe: >> Hello >> >> I have two problems with digests, and maybe you can help me: >> >> - on one mailing list some users complain that they don't get their own >> posts when they get the digest. I've tri

[Mailman-Users] Automatic creation of new lists

2006-09-13 Thread Frederik Questier
Hi, for our University I want to setup automatically mailinglists for each course and study year (some 10.000 mailing lists). I wonder, is something available for this aim? I could adapt newlist to make it non-interactive and script it with add_members, but probably some of you did this already

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with digests

2006-09-13 Thread Hans-Juergen Beie
Am Do, 7.09.2006, 15:57, schrieb Mário Filipe: > Hello > > I have two problems with digests, and maybe you can help me: > > - on one mailing list some users complain that they don't get their own > posts when they get the digest. I've tried this on a test list and i get > my posts so my question is

Re: [Mailman-Users] odd error with archive(?) and processing of mail cc'd to list with PDF attachement

2006-09-13 Thread Bretton Vine
Bretton Vine said the following on 2006/09/13 09:28 AM: > Sep 03 13:52:25 2006 qrunner(7888): charset, language, value = > decode_rfc2231(EMPTYSTRING.join(value)) > Sep 03 13:52:25 2006 qrunner(7888): File "MMHOME/pythonlib/email/Utils.py", > line 284, in decode_rfc2231 http://rfc.net/rfc2231.ht

[Mailman-Users] odd error with archive(?) and processing of mail cc'd to list with PDF attachement

2006-09-13 Thread Bretton Vine
Setup: Debian AMD64 (mixed testing/stable) Exim 4.62 (exim-daemon-heavy) Mailman 2.1.8 compiled from source, non-std debian policy install Per domain independent installation of mailman in /var/virtual/$domain/mailman/... ---