Re: [Mailman-Users] central location for /pythonlib/* for multipleinstallations

2006-09-16 Thread Bretton Vine
Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/09/15 04:42 PM: > I don't know why your installations were not all upgraded to email > 2.5.8 when you upgraded to 2.1.9, but they should have been. I'm just as puzzled ;-) > Yes. In each installation there are copies of paths.py in the bin, > cron, scripts a

Re: [Mailman-Users] central location for /pythonlib/* formultipleinstallations

2006-09-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bretton Vine wrote: >Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/09/15 04:42 PM: >> I don't know why your installations were not all upgraded to email >> 2.5.8 when you upgraded to 2.1.9, but they should have been. > >I'm just as puzzled ;-) I think I have observed this happening in one way, but I'm

[Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
I was surprised to find the Mailman lists not on Gmane, and some googling revealed some sort of religious flame war I don't really want to get into. But, I think at the very least, mailman-announce should be carried on Gmane. I don't see how that would hurt anyone. I'd really like to just ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:30 PM + 9/16/06, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: > I was surprised to find the Mailman lists not on Gmane, and some > googling revealed some sort of religious flame war I don't really want > to get into. The reason that they were removed from Gmane is that they tell us they have a policy of

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
AFAIK, Gmane has a small group of administrators who add the lists. It's possible one of them just forgot to notify you guys, or didn't understand that he had an obligation to. I'd guess that this was an honest mistake more than anything malicious. Having known Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen for yea

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:40 PM + 9/16/06, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: >Having known Lars > Magne Ingebrigtsen for years, he's all about being a good net > citizen, writing software that is aggressively standards > compliant, and all the other good things. Not to me

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
I understand what you're saying, but seriously, who cares if the mailman lists were added without anyone's approval? Gmane is a valuable and useful service and does no damage to anyone. You could think of it as someone doing the project a favor rather than something that needs "forgiveness."

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Larry Stone
On 9/16/06 8:25 PM, Jason R. Mastaler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I understand what you're saying, but seriously, who cares if the mailman > lists were added without anyone's approval? Gmane is a valuable and > useful service and does no damage to anyone. You could think of it as > someone doi

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:25 AM + 9/17/06, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: > I understand what you're saying, but seriously, who cares > if the mailman lists were added without anyone's approval? I do. The other listowners do. Lots of other owners of other lists that I've talked to likewise care what's being done w

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/16/06 11:32 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > If the Gmane folks had actually come to us first, we might well have > approved their request to set up a gateway. So because you feel personally offended, you choose to punish all Mailman users by not letting Gmane carry their lists? I think you are

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: > On 9/16/06 11:32 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > > If the Gmane folks had actually come to us first, we might well have > > approved their request to set up a gateway. > So because you feel personally offended, you choose to punish all > M