[Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Hi, I'm trying to follow the directions for integrating Mailman with Sendmail, but I think they may be incomplete. It looks like there were orginally some instructions directed at installations like mine (a few users, a few mailing lists, *one* computer), and they were entirely replaced by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: I'm trying to follow the directions for integrating Mailman with Sendmail, but I think they may be incomplete. It looks like there were orginally some instructions directed at installations like mine (a few users, a few mailing lists, *one* computer), and they were entirely

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Mark, thank you! This looks a *lot* easier than what I was trying to do, and perhaps the post even implies that what I was trying to do won't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All that said, the follow-up post really gives me pause: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037543.html Is that a legitimate worry? Whoops, I now see that by this perl script he's referring to mm-handler. Thanks. -- Dave

Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman with Qmail +VPopmail and using virtual domains

2006-12-03 Thread Dark Servant
2006/12/2, Dustin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am reposting a request for help that I posted earlier in regards to setting up Mailman with VPopmail and Qmail. So far, my request has gone unresponded to and I would really appreciate some assistance. I have been searching everywhere for like some

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: Mark, thank you! This looks a *lot* easier than what I was trying to do, and perhaps the post even implies that what I was trying to do won't work: many people cannot use David Champion's mm-handler due to shared use of domains (what exactly does he mean by shared

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Abrahams wrote: Mark, thank you! This looks a *lot* easier than what I was trying to do, and perhaps the post even implies that what I was trying to do won't work: many people cannot use David Champion's mm-handler due to shared use of domains

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Heh, first hurdle: The instructions at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html start with Create

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Heh, first hurdle: The instructions at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Heh, first hurdle: The instructions at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html start with

[Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Tomblin
Does the /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox directory have to contain just one file, or can I break it up by year or something to make them more managable? I had my mailman lists on my home server, but a few years ago I moved them to a virtual private server. Because the disk space

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: Heh, and even if I do that, I don't end up with a /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases. You have to create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with execute permission and containing /bin/cp /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases It seems like

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: Does the /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox directory have to contain just one file, or can I break it up by year or something to make them more managable? It can contain as many files as you want organized however you want, but the one named listname.mbox is

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (which uses listname.mbox/listname.mbox by default). You could actually do it in the other order, but the --wipe option needs to be on the first command, or if the existing archives match the existing listname.mbox, you could just do bin/arch

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: The problem is that I have 250,000 articles in this mbox file, so when I tried to arch it, arch ended up using over 1Gb of swap space, and it slowed my computer down to a crawl. I gave up and used the mbox splitter awk program I found in the list archives and I'm now building

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Pierre Forget
Hi, If it can help. I had problems installing and integrating with sendmail. Culprit was that it needs to know under which group sendmail is used. So, look carefully in your sendmail.cf (DefaultUser) and make sure you compile mailman with the switch to include this group for :

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Paul Tomblin wrote: slowed my computer down to a crawl. I gave up and used the mbox splitter awk program I found in the list archives and I'm now building the archives 500 messages at a time. Hope that works. It should. Also, you can

[Mailman-Users] failed to send out message when posting to a list

2006-12-03 Thread Jana Nguyen
Hi, I'm using postfix with mailman and I can't post mail to the mailing list. I can subscribe to a list, both I and the owner of the mailing list get an email notifications. But I do not receive email when posting to any of the mailing list that I created. I've checked the duplication email

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Tomblin
Oh yeah, one other minor issue with arch - in January of 2000, my list got some messages with a year of 100, as in ^Date: Sat, 1 Jan 100 16:58:49 -0500 (EST). arch files them all under today's date. It would be nice if arch could handle those, but I'm not holding my breath in expectation since

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul Tomblin writes: Is there any way to make arch smarter about ^From lines? Yes, but it's not a good idea to put it in the distribution, at least not without a lot of careful hedging about and making it an option defaulting to off. You can't even being sure that From_ lines will be

[Mailman-Users] Another archive questions

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Tomblin
I noticed that the messages.html files only have 6 digits in them. Does that mean that it will break when we reach 999,999 messages? I'm already up over 300,000 on one of my lists. I know, we'll all be communicating by neural implant by then. -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Abrahams wrote: Heh, and even if I do that, I don't end up with a /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases. You have to create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with execute permission and containing /bin/cp /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I think the better approach is to do just what you did, and make a site-specific script to do From-munging. Of course there's nothing wrong with putting them in a contrib section in the distribution; my worry is about changing bin/arch. Note that there is such a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: Uh-huh. But now I have all the products mentioned in step 5 except for mailman.aliases.db. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but... any clues? If /etc/mailman.aliases is properly referenced in the sendmail configuration, the /usr/bin/newaliases command in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Another archive questions

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: I noticed that the messages.html files only have 6 digits in them. Does that mean that it will break when we reach 999,999 messages? I'm already up over 300,000 on one of my lists. It will go to 7 or more digits as required by the sequence number, but even if it didn't, it

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Note that there is such a script already in the distribution. It is bin/cleanarch which as Stephen notes, may or may not work for you. Oh. I wish I'd discovered this about 8 hours ago. Oh well, file it away for next time. -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] failed to send out message when posting to a list

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jana Nguyen wrote: I'm using postfix with mailman and I can't post mail to the mailing list. I can subscribe to a list, both I and the owner of the mailing list get an email notifications. But I do not receive email when posting to any of the mailing list that I created. Do you receive other

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Abrahams wrote: Uh-huh. But now I have all the products mentioned in step 5 except for mailman.aliases.db. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but... any clues? If /etc/mailman.aliases is properly referenced in the sendmail configuration, the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
Pierre Forget [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, If it can help. I had problems installing and integrating with sendmail. Culprit was that it needs to know under which group sendmail is used. So, look carefully in your sendmail.cf (DefaultUser) and make sure you compile mailman with the switch

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep. I was editing boost.mc so in /etc/mail I did make boost.cf cp boost.cf sendmail.cf make restart Problem solved: I was pointing sendmail at the wrong path for the mailman.aliases file. [/etc/aliases was just a symlink to

Re: [Mailman-Users] New Mailman Installation - Can't Send Email toaNewList(reformatted)

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Salisbury wrote: Mark, Ok, I added these lines at the end of the mm_cfg.py file: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain1.net' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.domain1.net' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: Say, if I really want to distinguish lists.mydomain.com from mydomain.com, is there any reason I can't still set up a virtual mail host and tack an automated updating of the virtusers file as shown in http://www.ddj.com/dept/architect/184413752?pgno=4 onto

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail

2006-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Abrahams wrote: Pardon me, but isn't the GID with which to execute cgi scripts? Or are you saying that mailman's CGI scripts need to execute with the same GID as sendmail? If so, why? Mailman's CGI scripts must run as group 'mailman' (or whatever is specified as the mailman group).