Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:04 AM -0600 3/9/07, Brad Knowles quoted Herman Privyhum: > >> http://xrl.us/u8pf (Link to www.exim.org) > > So Phil says that he runs a trustworthy IDENT server on his box. BTW, that article is eight years old now. Eight years in "real" time is over five Internet generations. We were st

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:16 PM -0800 3/8/07, Herman Privyhum wrote: > http://xrl.us/u8pf (Link to www.exim.org) So Phil says that he runs a trustworthy IDENT server on his box. Fine. But plenty of spammers, phishers, and other nefarious types out there will try to use IDENT as another vector to exploit for use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Herman Privyhum
--- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ahh, yes. You should definitely disable IDENT. I > didn't know that any modern MTAs actually > used it. Here's Philip Hazel's rationale: http://xrl.us/u8pf (Link to www.exim.org) Herman __

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:44 PM -0800 3/8/07, Herman Privyhum wrote: > Thanks to all for the thorough replies. It appears > that the solution actually lies in disabling ident. Ahh, yes. You should definitely disable IDENT. I didn't know that any modern MTAs actually used it. > I may go back and turn it on aga

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Herman Privyhum
--- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd be willing to bet you're waiting on DNS timeouts > at the remote end for one or more of your users > -- their MTA is slowing you down, maybe as a > result of trying to do a reverse DNS lookup on > your IP address. Thanks to all for the thorou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! Who needs periodic reminders, when there will be a rese

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:46 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe this is a good time to ask just how DNS-intensive the > non-sendmail MTA's are. I am finishing off the basics on installing > sendmail with Mailman, and am including some discussion of the need to > install a good fast-response caching

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Dragon has said: > > This may just be the time needed to resolve the dns lookups for the > outgoing mail. > > You may want to consider using a caching dns resolver to cache the > sddresses for some reasonable period. Getting the resolved addresses > out of cache will be much faste

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > In the longer term (Mailman 2.2) password reminders and the site list > are both going away. > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL flaming demands that we un

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > User passwords are (finally) going to be encrypted, so there's no way > to send a reminder. The existing, on demand reminder will be replaced Ohh, good idea. > It would be interesting to keep track of requests from users for things > they can do for them

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail delivery fails with "(-2, 'Name or service not known')"

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >When I try to access to python shell with mailman user ( @#" su >mailman ") I've got a error : >"This account is currently not available." Try running these as any 'ordinary' user - not root. Also try sending mail using the example in the post at

Re: [Mailman-Users] header

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gerson Rino Prantl Oaida wrote: > >I have the mailman with freebsd and postfix. >My hostname is "host.domain.com", and the list is >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but I want "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Where are you seeing "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? If on Mailman web pages in List-* headers in mail from Mailman, you n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: > >*All* password reminders are going away? I'm kind of worried about that - >I get enough emails from people who say "can you change my email address >to [EMAIL PROTECTED]", I'm pretty sure that without the monthly reminders I'd >get >three times as many. User passwords are

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The esteemed TRON478 has said: >> >> and used the command "newaliases" with no errors. MTA is "manual". whats >> wrong? >> > >Your aliases file looks correct. I'm not sure what you mean by >"manual." MTA = 'Manual' is what you put in mm_cfg.py (actually, you don't n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > In the longer term (Mailman 2.2) password reminders and the site list > are both going away. *All* password reminders are going away? I'm kind of worried about that - I get enough emails from people who say "can you change my email address to [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Herman Privyhum wrote: > >All >messages have been taking just over 105 seconds to >deliver, according to /usr/local/mailman/log/smtp. > >After searching through the archives to this list, I >found that a garbage line in /etc/hosts was >responsible for 75 seconds worth of that. Now we're >down to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: >Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> >> I'm not sure that treating a bounce of a password reminder as an >> immediate disable for bounce is a good idea. It is after all, just one >> bounce. If you don't disable members for bounce after one single post >> bounces, It pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:14 PM -0800 3/8/07, Herman Privyhum wrote: > Where else should I look for things that could be > causing this? Exim only has problems with mail routed > through Mailman. Look at your MTA logs. They should show you when a given message comes in for a given user, and when that is success

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Dragon
Herman Privyhum sent the message below at 15:14 3/8/2007: >I'm using Mailman in conjunction with Exim on FreeBSD >5.3 to support a small mailing list (60 members). All >messages have been taking just over 105 seconds to >deliver, according to /usr/local/mailman/log/smtp. > >After searching throug

[Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread Herman Privyhum
Hello, I'm using Mailman in conjunction with Exim on FreeBSD 5.3 to support a small mailing list (60 members). All messages have been taking just over 105 seconds to deliver, according to /usr/local/mailman/log/smtp. After searching through the archives to this list, I found that a garbage lin

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed TRON478 has said: > > hi, > > i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the > administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the > list, the mail never arrives. > > i have added the aliases in the alias file: > > ## point mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/8/07 1:52 AM, "TRON478" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the > administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the > list, the mail never arrives. You sent the message to which I'm replying from Gmail. If yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >I'm having two problems with members of a list who are set to "no mail" > >but whose email address is no longer valid: > >- The bounce of the monthly password reminder, even though it is VERPed, > > is not sufficient to remove them from the list because

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: >I'm having two problems with members of a list who are set to "no mail" >but whose email address is no longer valid: >- The bounce of the monthly password reminder, even though it is VERPed, > is not sufficient to remove them from the list because it's only one > bounce. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck user: wwwrun group:mailman

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
TRON478 wrote: > >i have problems with mailman webinterface: > >when is start and want to login i get the error "access denied for >data/adm.pw" > >usr= root >grp=mailman >others = denied > >when i manually set others to read it works. the same with the lists config >files. everytime when i change

Re: [Mailman-Users] paper clip

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jessie wrote: >I'm sorry to come to the list with this. I have searched for an answer but >have not been able to help myself. What can I do about the "paper clip" that >shows up with each post that ha a hyperlinked signature? I allow attachments >on my small list, but I would like to get rid of

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
TRON478 wrote: > >i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the >administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the >list, the mail never arrives. > >i have added the aliases in the alias file: > >## point mailing list >point: "|/usr/local

[Mailman-Users] config.pck user: wwwrun group:mailman

2007-03-08 Thread TRON478
Hi, i have problems with mailman webinterface: when is start and want to login i get the error "access denied for data/adm.pw" usr= root grp=mailman others = denied when i manually set others to read it works. the same with the lists config files. everytime when i change the configuration or ad

[Mailman-Users] paper clip

2007-03-08 Thread Jessie
I'm sorry to come to the list with this. I have searched for an answer but have not been able to help myself. What can I do about the "paper clip" that shows up with each post that ha a hyperlinked signature? I allow attachments on my small list, but I would like to get rid of the "paper clip"

[Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread TRON478
hi, i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the list, the mail never arrives. i have added the aliases in the alias file: ## point mailing list point: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailma