Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue delays

2008-01-07 Thread Grigory Batalov
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:31:27 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Why are there 121 > >> messages being retried. What is in Mailman's smtp-failure log? > > > > It is full of errors: > > > >Jan 08 01:55:00 2008 (13316) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': > >(450, '4.1.2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue delays

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grigory Batalov wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:59:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > >> Why are there 121 >> messages being retried. What is in Mailman's smtp-failure log? > > It is full of errors: > >Jan 08 01:55:00 2008 (13316) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': >(450, '4.1.2 <[EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Lists

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I just discovered something that may or may not be useful. Just for >grins I tried sending a request to the request mail box. I saw some >errors in the syslog but the main one is that there is a group error. >The mailman wrapper expected to be run as group 'mail' but ran as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Lists

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Putnam wrote: > >At 07:10 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: > >What does Mailman's bin/list_lists show? > >It shows my lists correctly. I am confused. Your original post said "Well, mailman works but it does not recognize any of my old lists. How do I get Mailman to see the lists again?" Now you s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue delays

2008-01-07 Thread Grigory Batalov
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 03:41:23 +0300, Grigory Batalov wrote: > > What does Mailman's smtp log look like? Does it show evidence of > > 'continuous processing'? > > Well, there are messages like this: > > Jan 08 01:55:11 2008 (12250) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to sisyphus for 1 > recips, completed i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Lists

2008-01-07 Thread Dennis Putnam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just discovered something that may or may not be useful. Just for grins I tried sending a request to the request mail box. I saw some errors in the syslog but the main one is that there is a group error. The mailman wrapper expected to be run as grou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue delays

2008-01-07 Thread Grigory Batalov
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:59:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >I have regular delays in message processing. Say, my server (Linux/Postfix) > >receives a letter at 17:36 and quickly delivers it to the mailman queue (?). > >Then message is hold for about 25 minutes and is processed again at 18:01. > > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Lists

2008-01-07 Thread Dennis Putnam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks again. Please see the embedded responses. At 07:10 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: What does Mailman's bin/list_lists show? It shows my lists correctly. What exactly is in mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py for VAR_PREFIX and LIST_DATA_DIR. Note that if LIS

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Lists

2008-01-07 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/7/08, Dennis Putnam wrote: > I knew it wasn't going to be that easy. Everything you mentioned seems > copacetic. I guess the next question is, can I set some kind of debug > that will give me some useful information in the logs? There is no "debug mode" with Mailman. What you get in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Lists

2008-01-07 Thread Dennis Putnam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 02:32 PM 1/5/2008, you wrote: Look in Defaults.py for things like PREFIX, EXEC_PREFIX and VAR_PREFIX, and then for things defined in terms of these such as LIST_DATA_DIR, LOG_DIR, etc. Then look in mm_cfg.py for possible overrides. - -- Mark Sapi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Charles Marcus wrote: >I'm trying to be patient, but NO ONE has a clue or idea where I might >look to solve this? As Brad says, we don't. Here is an example of the init.d/mailman script that we distribute after 'configure'. -

[Mailman-Users] Secure Email List Services using Mailman and GnuPG

2008-01-07 Thread Meenal Pant
This might be of interest to the Mailman User Community. Our team has recently released SELS v0.4 software. http://sels.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ This software release has two parts. One for the List Server (LS), which enables a list administrator to set up a Secure List Server using Mailman and GnuPG. The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-07 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/7/08, Charles Marcus wrote: > I'm trying to be patient, but NO ONE has a clue or idea where I might > look to solve this? > > I've asked here because I'm getting deafening silence on the Gentoo > forums too... Everything I've seen on this subject leads me to believe that the problems yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-07 Thread Charles Marcus
I'm trying to be patient, but NO ONE has a clue or idea where I might look to solve this? I've asked here because I'm getting deafening silence on the Gentoo forums too... :( Charles Marcus, on 1/6/2008 1:15 PM, said the following: > Anyone? This is actually now a little worse - I updated the

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Coberly
Brad Knowles wrote: On 1/7/08, Troy Knabe wrote: I want to set a list so that users cannot self subscribe. Is there a way to do that? I only see "confirm, require approval, or confirm and approve". I would like "not allowed" What's wrong with requiring approval, and then just

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/7/08, Troy Knabe wrote: > I want to set a list so that users cannot self subscribe. Is there a > way to do that? I only see "confirm, require approval, or confirm and > approve". I would like "not allowed" What's wrong with requiring approval, and then just not approving any requests?

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread Barry Finkel
Troy Knabe wrote: >> I want to set a list so that users cannot self subscribe. Is there a >> way to do that? I only see "confirm, require approval, or confirm and >> approve". I would like "not allowed" >> >> Thanks >> -Troy And charlie derr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied: > Looks like ban_l

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Troy Knabe wrote: >Ok so that brings up 2 questions for me. > >1. What would I put to ban everyone from being able to subscribe? ^. Ie, a pattern that matches any address with at least one character. >2. If I banned everyone from subscription then I wouldn't be able to >add them manually e

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread charlie derr
Looks like ban_list under Privacy Options will do what you desire. ~c Troy Knabe wrote: > I want to set a list so that users cannot self subscribe. Is there a > way to do that? I only see "confirm, require approval, or confirm and > approve". I would like "not allowed" > > Than

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread Troy Knabe
Ok so that brings up 2 questions for me. 1. What would I put to ban everyone from being able to subscribe? 2. If I banned everyone from subscription then I wouldn't be able to add them manually either, or is that not a correct assumption? Thanks -Troy On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:27 AM, charlie de

[Mailman-Users] subscribe_policy

2008-01-07 Thread Troy Knabe
I want to set a list so that users cannot self subscribe. Is there a way to do that? I only see "confirm, require approval, or confirm and approve". I would like "not allowed" Thanks -Troy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@pyth

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue delays

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grigory Batalov wrote: > >I have regular delays in message processing. Say, my server (Linux/Postfix) >receives a letter at 17:36 and quickly delivers it to the mailman queue (?). >Then message is hold for about 25 minutes and is processed again at 18:01. > >It is strange to me, why mailman keeps t

[Mailman-Users] Queue delays

2008-01-07 Thread Grigory Batalov
Hello! I have regular delays in message processing. Say, my server (Linux/Postfix) receives a letter at 17:36 and quickly delivers it to the mailman queue (?). Then message is hold for about 25 minutes and is processed again at 18:01. It is strange to me, why mailman keeps the message so long? Ho