Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

On 23-Nov-2009, at 17:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: > And list owners and other list members would never have to deal with > posts with Subject: Re: listname Digest, Vol nn, Issue nn and bodies > consisting of "Yeah, me too" followed by a quote of the entire digest. > > I'm hoping that in MM3 when s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

LuKreme wrote: > >I THINK that the "No" really means that it is not possible. Not without modifying the source code. >The Digest messages are sent out as multi-part mime messages. Each message in >the digest is a separate mime part. The text of the actual message is the >thing that appears to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

Okay, thanks for the info. I'll go stealth for awhile. :) At 4:38 PM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bill Catambay wrote: How about changing the text? The text is built from the masthead.txt template. A list specific version of this template can be installed (see the FAQ at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

Bill Catambay wrote: >How about changing the text? The text is built from the masthead.txt template. A list specific version of this template can be installed (see the FAQ at ), but not by *you* (unless you start running your own Mailman). This is not one of the 4 te

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

On 23-Nov-2009, at 17:21, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Bill Catambay wrote: >> In any case, I did have one follow-up question (suggestion, actually, >> from a member of my list). In the digests, is there any setting that >> is available to *me* that will let me put the digest prolog text >> (e.g., "To

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

How about changing the text? At 4:21 PM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bill Catambay wrote: In any case, I did have one follow-up question (suggestion, actually, from a member of my list). In the digests, is there any setting that is available to *me* that will let me put the digest

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

Bill Catambay wrote: > >In any case, I did have one follow-up question (suggestion, actually, >from a member of my list). In the digests, is there any setting that >is available to *me* that will let me put the digest prolog text >(e.g., "To subscribe..., When replying..., etc., etc.) at the bo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

Okay, today was quite the rollercoaster. I finally got an email from my ISP's Operations group stating that the foo-list-mod email was working, but when I tried, it didn't work. Bounced just like before. I called them up, and when I told them it was still bouncing, they insisted that it was w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest cron time

hone+mail...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu wrote: > >The time to deliver digest messages is set to noon. Is this a Mailman >choice or a RedHat choice. > ># Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold >delivery. > >It seems to me that sometime before 8am would be more logical. It woul

[Mailman-Users] Digest cron time

Using Mailman version: 2.1.9 on RedHat The time to deliver digest messages is set to noon. Is this a Mailman choice or a RedHat choice. # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold delivery. It seems to me that sometime before 8am would be more logical. It would be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bill Catambay wrote: If by "send a message", you mean email a message to the normal foo- list email address, then I'm back to square one (i.e., it will never reach anyone on the list because of the aliases being whacked). Honestly, I don't see Mailman doing anyt

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: An ever-increasing number of software packages support the installation of 3rd party extensions, said extensions supporting the activities of installation, deactivation and removal, leaving the core system unaltered. This provides end users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Terri Oda wrote: > >Maybe a nice in-between solution would be making sure the >FAQ/Documentation had an entry saying "if you need to get an emergency >message out and Mailman is not working, here's how to get the whole >subscriber list and send a Bcc'ed mail" Anyone want to volunteer to >stick

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

At 8:52 AM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bill Catambay wrote: If by "send a message", you mean email a message to the normal foo-list email address, then I'm back to square one (i.e., it will never reach anyone on the list because of the aliases being whacked). But, I hope you unde

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Bill Catambay wrote: > >If by "send a message", you mean email a message to the normal >foo-list email address, then I'm back to square one (i.e., it will >never reach anyone on the list because of the aliases being whacked). But, I hope you understand that your specific need/situation - email

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

At 1:32 PM +0200 on 11/23/09, Gadi Evron wrote: Actually, I spoke of a possible _announcement_ feature, not an emergency feature. "Announcement" feature would be better, since it's not always going to be an "emergency" (and would still work in my situation). -- ,,,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 09:42 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > However, the laundry list of "useful features" that could be added to > Mailman is several miles long and almost as wide, and I'm not > qualified to judge where on that laundry list this particular feature > would/should fall -- I'll leave th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I knew I'd seen that somewhere. Problem was I looked for it as an RFE and not as an existing feature :) :) -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-User

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Barry Warsaw wrote: > >On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> The second request, which might also satisfy the first if it were >> implemented as a web service, seems to be for a way to send a message >> right now to all members of a list (or all lists?) regardless of >> digest and n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

At 11:05 AM -0500 on 11/23/09, Barry Warsaw wrote: The second request, which might also satisfy the first if it were implemented as a web service, seems to be for a way to send a message right now to all members of a list (or all lists?) regardless of digest and nomail settings. Actually, MM2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

At 7:56 AM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote: I see two requests in this thread. The original appeared to be a request for a way to send a regular post to a list via the admin web interface, which would be useful in cases where for whatever reason, the list was working but email delivery to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The second request, which might also satisfy the first if it were implemented as a web service, seems to be for a way to send a message right now to all members of a list (or all lists?) regardless of digest and nomail settings. Actually, MM2 al

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

At 7:32 PM +0900 on 11/23/09, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Bill Catambay writes: > 1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case) > 2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common > for those of us behind corporate firewalls) > 3. My email is broken, but my internet i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Gadi Evron wrote: > >Actually, I spoke of a possible _announcement_ feature, not an emergency >feature. I see two requests in this thread. The original appeared to be a request for a way to send a regular post to a list via the admin web interface, which would be useful in cases where for whatev

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: > Brad Knowles wrote: >> At the very least, you should find a different provider where they actually >> give you the support you require. > > Brad, crappy providers aside, do you think this might be a useful feature? I can see that it might be a us

Re: [Mailman-Users] Service provider environments

On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:31 AM, LuKreme wrote: On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:42, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: We also need to improve the administrative interface. Mark (and you, inter alia) have spent *way* too much time typing five levels of menu navigation into answers to "how do I ..." questions.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Service provider environments

On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:42, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: We also need to improve the administrative interface. Mark (and you, inter alia) have spent *way* too much time typing five levels of menu navigation into answers to "how do I ..." questions. Oh yeah, the UI has much room for improveme

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Bill Catambay wrote: 1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case) 2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common for those of us behind corporate firewalls) 3. My email is broken, but my internet it still working However, even with these reasons, I wouldn't consider

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Gadi Evron writes: > crappy providers aside, do you think this might be a useful > feature? I think that, as Mark alludes to, this feature would be harder to implement usefully than you'd think. It sounds easy, but remember, in a very large share cases where it wou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Bill Catambay writes: > 1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case) > 2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common > for those of us behind corporate firewalls) > 3. My email is broken, but my internet it still working > > However, even with these reasons, I w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case) 2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common for those of us behind corporate firewalls) 3. My email is broken, but my internet it still working However, even with these reasons, I wouldn't consider it a big deal, especi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

Gadi Evron writes: > crappy providers aside, do you think this might be a useful > feature? I think that, as Mark alludes to, this feature would be harder to implement usefully than you'd think. It sounds easy, but remember, in a very large share cases where it would be useful *your mail syste

[Mailman-Users] Service provider environments

Brad Knowles writes: > We can repeat the mantra -- Mailman was *NEVER* designed to be used > in a Service Provider environment, especially not with multiple > customers who may have very different needs, That's technically true, but Mailman has grown a long list of features that make it attrac