Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > What's the legitimate use case for multiple From headers? Technically, there is none. RFC 5322 requires exactly one From field, and that's that. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5322.txt, table in section 3.6. (Resent-From, of course, is a different kettle of fish.) However,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Real Names on Roster

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Carpenter wrote: >I think the problem is we are using 2.1.14 and not 2.2 which has not >been released yet. [...] > >On 5/23/2011 4:21 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: >> >> IIRC, this shows up for me, but only if the person subscribed via >> Email which of course sends the name along with the Email

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automating Mailman Archive Maintenance

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
C Nulk wrote: > >I have written a small php app which uses the imap libraries to open and >process the mbox files. Given a time frame, the app will mark for >deletion or remove any messages older than the time frame. Now to write >a script to call bin/arch for each of the lists I process with my

Re: [Mailman-Users] Real Names on Roster

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Carpenter
I think the problem is we are using 2.1.14 and not 2.2 which has not been released yet. -- Brian Carpenter Owner | EMWD& dotList br...@emwd.com | http://www.emwd.com | http://www.mailmanhost.com On 5/23/2011 4:21 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011, Brian Carpenter wrote: What change

Re: [Mailman-Users] Real Names on Roster

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Carpenter wrote: > >What change do I need to make to mailman's configuration to allow real >names to show up on any lists' roster? I did some searching around and >did not find an answer. I did read one post that stated that some sort >of configuration setup that allows for this would be i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Geoff Shang wrote: >On Mon, 23 May 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> I think Geoff Shang's reply (at >> - >> only one of the problems of posting as a non-subscriber) was on target. > >Sorry, I didn't realise this list accepted non-m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: I think Geoff Shang's reply (at - only one of the problems of posting as a non-subscriber) was on target. Sorry, I didn't realise this list accepted non-member posts. Geoff.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Soh > >On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> You don't have to reload Postfix after changing aliases and/or >> virtual-mailman. The commands defined in POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD and >> POSTFIX_MAP_CMD are run automatically and update the .db files and >> Postfix will notice the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > add_virtualhost is not mentioned in the postfix section because it's > not a postfix related setting per se. > > Section 7 Review your site defaults urges you to read Defaults.py > Good to know. > You don't have to reload Postfix after chan

Re: [Mailman-Users] Real Names on Roster

2011-05-23 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Brian Carpenter wrote: What change do I need to make to mailman's configuration to allow real names to show up on any lists' roster? I did some searching around and did not find an answer. I did read one post that stated that some sort of configuration setup that allows fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Soh wrote: > >On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> This is documented in Defaults.py in the paragraphs immediately >> preceding the definitions of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. >> > >I was just following the directions on the website, specifically: >http://ww

[Mailman-Users] Real Names on Roster

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Carpenter
Hello Mailman Community: What change do I need to make to mailman's configuration to allow real names to show up on any lists' roster? I did some searching around and did not find an answer. I did read one post that stated that some sort of configuration setup that allows for this would be imp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Jay A. Sekora
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 18:01 +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > Mail sent on behalf of a group, such as mail from a committee or from > > the multiple authors of a paper, where you want people's individual > > addresses and names exposed > > But surely that does not require multiple From lines, l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This is documented in Defaults.py in the paragraphs immediately > preceding the definitions of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. > I was just following the directions on the website, specifically: http://www.list.org/mailman-install/po

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Soh wrote: > >On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> It looks like epicf...@linuslive.com is being mapped to >> epicf...@mikesoh.com by virtual_alias_maps, but mikesoh.com is in turn >> a virtual domain (i.e. in virtual_alias_domains). >> > >Yes, this is correct. I have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > It looks like epicf...@linuslive.com is being mapped to > epicf...@mikesoh.com by virtual_alias_maps, but mikesoh.com is in turn > a virtual domain (i.e. in virtual_alias_domains). > Yes, this is correct. I have a lot of e-mail addresses and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > What's in mm_cfg.py? > > In particular, is 'linuslive.com' in POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS and > in an add_virtualhost() directive. > POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['linuslive.com', 'mikesoh.com'] And it looks like there isn't anything li

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: >Michael Soh wrote: >> >>Thanks Mark and Geoff for your help. The fix did work. However, now trying >>to use mailman in my virtual domain is proving problematic. >> >>I removed the previous epicf...@lists.mikesoh.com and created >>epicf...@linuslive.com. The output of the mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Soh wrote: > >Thanks Mark and Geoff for your help. The fix did work. However, now trying >to use mailman in my virtual domain is proving problematic. > >I removed the previous epicf...@lists.mikesoh.com and created >epicf...@linuslive.com. The output of the maillog is: [...] >May 23 14:0

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
Thanks Mark and Geoff for your help. The fix did work. However, now trying to use mailman in my virtual domain is proving problematic. I removed the previous epicf...@lists.mikesoh.com and created epicf...@linuslive.com. The output of the maillog is: May 23 14:06:34 hotdog postfix/smtpd[11643]:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/23/2011 10:17 AM, Michael Soh wrote: > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > If you want someone to actually look at your Postfix configuration, > paste the output from 'postconf -n' rather than the entire 643 line > 'postconf' configuration. > > > http://

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
Sorry my master.cf paste was incomplete: http://paste.ubuntu.com/611947/ On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Michael Soh wrote: > Thanks so much for your clues. I've replied in-line > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Don't assume that your HTML markup will pass through a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Soh
Thanks so much for your clues. I've replied in-line On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Don't assume that your HTML markup will pass through a list's content > filtering. > Noted. > The problem is that mail to the lists.mikesoh.com domain is delivered > by a relay other tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automating Mailman Archive Maintenance

2011-05-23 Thread C Nulk
Thank you very much, Mark. I appreciate the information and help. I have written a small php app which uses the imap libraries to open and process the mbox files. Given a time frame, the app will mark for deletion or remove any messages older than the time frame. Now to write a script to call b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Jay A. Sekora wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 11:06 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: What's the legitimate use case for multiple From headers? Mail sent on behalf of a group, such as mail from a committee or from the multiple authors of a paper, where you want people's individual

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tangent: Exporting information from Mailman to the MTA

2011-05-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 23, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Jay A. Sekora wrote: >That reminds me of something I've sort of been wishing for for a bit, >which would be the ability to expose arbitrary new list-specific >variables to list admins which would be stored in the list pickle. In MM3, there are no pickles. Everything

Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a lot of members with incorrect address

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Marc Rengers wrote: > >I've got a list where an other admin has subcribed a lot of members with a >dash on the end of the address. Like n...@domain.nl- and u...@other.com- >If it were a few I would unsubscribe them manually, but there are around >150 > >Is there a way to create a ilst of thes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing MM-List-Subscription-Msg

2011-05-23 Thread Mike Starr
Ah, the sun begins to break over the horizon. I'll edit the HTML then () and wait with bated breath for the overhauled web UI. Thanks much for your patience with my questions. Best regards, Mike -- Mike StarrWriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Onlin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Jay A. Sekora
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 11:06 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > What's the legitimate use case for multiple From headers? Mail sent on behalf of a group, such as mail from a committee or from the multiple authors of a paper, where you want people's individual addresses and names exposed (or you can't cre

[Mailman-Users] Tangent: Exporting information from Mailman to the MTA

2011-05-23 Thread Jay A. Sekora
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 15:03 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Of course, some things have to involve Mailman (eg, filtering posts on > list membership). But even there, the developers consider it a design > bug that Mailman has no way to export its member database to filtering > software at the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing MM-List-Subscription-Msg

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Starr wrote: > >However, it also just seems to me that this is one of those things that should >probably be editable on the *General Options* form page itself, like most of >the other text chunks. That's why I also asked about the procedure for adding >that editing capability as a feature r

[Mailman-Users] removing a lot of members with incorrect address

2011-05-23 Thread Marc Rengers
Hi, I've got a list where an other admin has subcribed a lot of members with a dash on the end of the address. Like n...@domain.nl- and u...@other.com- If it were a few I would unsubscribe them manually, but there are around 150 Is there a way to create a ilst of these wrong addresses and th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 23, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Jay A. Sekora wrote: >However, that means that as more spammers use this technique, either >sites are going to have to start blocking mail with multiple From: >addresses at SMTP time -- and I discovered to my surprise that we *do* >have legitimate senders using that f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Jay A. Sekora
Thanks very much, Mark; this is exactly what I needed to know! > To answer your question, put a regexp like > > (?s)\nFrom:.*\nFrom: > > in Privacy options... -> Spam filters -> header_filter_rules. These > regexps are searched in IGNORECASE and MULTILINE mode. The (?s) will > set DOTALL (dot ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Jay A. Sekora
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 23:44 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Do you mean to say that the people at CSAIL ought to switch to using > SpamAssasin instead of filtering in Mailman? We *are* using SpamAssassin *as well as* filtering in Mailman. > Jay, do you see a reason not to do it that way? There

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing MM-List-Subscription-Msg

2011-05-23 Thread Mike Starr
Mark, Thanks much for your response. Yes, I did realize I could directly edit that bit of HTML, replacing the tag with my own specific text. I was not sure, though, if there was some sort of mechanism in the built-in user interface for editing the content of the variable that I (clueless bow

Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing MM-List-Subscription-Msg

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Starr wrote: > >I had really hoped this would be something I could modify from the *General >Options* section but no joy. So now I'm apparently going to have to figure out >how to edit code on the server somewhere. Can someone point me to what I have >to do to edit this particular variable?

[Mailman-Users] Editing MM-List-Subscription-Msg

2011-05-23 Thread Mike Starr
Hello, I recently had someone outside our group visit the group's Mailman page and subscribe to the list. I corrected the setting so that it now requires administrator approval for someone to join the list. Cool... no problem. However, the text on the Mailman page doesn't make it clear how we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to clean old messages

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
alexan...@nautae.eti.br wrote: >> I have searched the archives on the mailman-*@python.org >> lists and while I find several posts from you, > >Maybe I've sent using another email account: alexan...@edem.g12.br OK. I found the post I had searched Google for q=site:mail.python.org:+inurl:mailman+

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to clean old messages

2011-05-23 Thread alexander
I have searched the archives on the mailman-*@python.org lists and while I find several posts from you, Maybe I've sent using another email account: alexan...@edem.g12.br []s Alexander Brazil This message was sent using IMP, the