On 2012-06-16 3:54 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote:
* Terry Earleyte...@fiteyes.com:
Maybe VERP is the best solution for AOL and her evil step-sisters if you
can stand the overhead?
Yep.
Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL,
Yahoo,
On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I have no idea why AOL wants to make it difficult for list
administrators to unsubscribe people who don't want to be subscribed and
who complain to AOL about list posts being spam.
I can tell you the reasons that management gave at the time
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 06:34 -0700, Brad Knowles wrote:
I can tell you the reasons that management gave at the time I was
working there -- it was all about the privacy of their user. They
said that they wanted to protect the privacy of the person who was
complaining.
So what would be the
On 6/16/2012 2:04 PM, David wrote:
How would I update from the version of Mailman 2.1.14 from Ubuntu's
repository (on Ubuntu 12.04)?
You can do what I did when I administered a Mailman system running on
Ubuntu - I generated my own package from an existing Ubuntu package and
the new SourceForge
David wrote:
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
David wrote:
In mm_cfg.py I have these settings:
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION=Yes
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES=Yes
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
If I set
Tanstaafl wrote:
Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL,
Yahoo, etc)?
It would be a somewhat messy hack to Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py to
do it in Mailman. Depending on your MTA, you might be able to do it
there if you have the MTA do the VERPing.
See
Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL,
Yahoo, etc)?
Now that AOL also redacts return path, VERPing alone will not help much for
them.
Return-Path: redacted-boun...@discuss.fiteyes.com
Full Personalization could give you more to trace, since each post is send
Terry Earley wrote:
Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL,
Yahoo, etc)?
Now that AOL also redacts return path, VERPing alone will not help much for
them.
Return-Path: redacted-boun...@discuss.fiteyes.com
Is that a redact of a VERPed Return-Path:? It doesn't look
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
Terry Earley wrote:
Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL,
Yahoo, etc)?
Now that AOL also redacts return path, VERPing alone will not help much
for
them.
Return-Path:
On 6/17/2012 4:44 PM, David wrote:
An AOL member complained about this same message today.
The return path in the report from the AOL Feedback Loop gets redacted to:
Return-Path: all-bounces+redacted=aol@discuss.fiteyes.com
OK, that answers that question, so it would seem that
Can someone give me some feedback on the following patch to
SMTPDirect.py - whatever I've overlooked, or done that might be
dangerous?
The purpose of this patch is to insert a header, X-subdata into VERPed
emails which won't be flagged and redacted by AOL's brain-dead Email
Feedback Report
On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
So what would be the implications of hacking an extra header into
outgoing posts on lists for which personalization is enabled, say
X-Subdata, with said header containing a hash of the subscriber
address to which the post is directed?
You
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 20:40 -0700, Brad Knowles wrote:
You could do this, but the question is whether or not that header
would survive through to the complaint you get via their feedback
loop. I doubt that it would, but there's only one way to know for
sure.
My observation has been that the
Lindsay Haisley wrote:
Can someone give me some feedback on the following patch to
SMTPDirect.py - whatever I've overlooked, or done that might be
dangerous?
[...]
--- SMTPDirect.py.orig 2012-06-17 17:16:25.0 -0500
+++ SMTPDirect.py 2012-06-17 21:17:25.0 -0500
@@ -43,6 +43,8
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