Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
I hope the voice recognition on my phone works well for this I have unusual challenges at the moment so this is the best I can do as a response . here's my theory. outlook makes a compliant message with the CC header that happens to be folded on the white space in the middle of a display name .

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > On 3/14/2013 3:22 PM, Bruce Harrison wrote: > > "j...@mailman.utm.edu" was not in the Sent folder message at all. > > > We understand that and never expected it to be. The question is in > exactly what context in the Cc: in the sent folder is "Judy" found. To be speci

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/14/2013 3:22 PM, Bruce Harrison wrote: > "j...@mailman.utm.edu" was not in the Sent folder message at all. We understand that and never expected it to be. The question is in exactly what context in the Cc: in the sent folder is "Judy" found. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamble

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Bruce Harrison
"j...@mailman.utm.edu" was not in the Sent folder message at all. Bruce -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:step...@xemacs.org] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:13 PM To: Bruce Harrison Cc: Terry Lewis; mailman-users@python.org; Corey Jones Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] s

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bruce Harrison writes: > Thanks for a good, detailed explanation. You're welcome. This kind of problem gets sadly technical really quickly. > Our one remaining Barracuda boxes is an outgoing mail filter, I really should keep my random opinions to myself. I'm sure it does a good job, I was j

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Bruce Harrison
Stephen, Thanks for a good, detailed explanation. Our one remaining Barracuda boxes is an outgoing mail filter, used mainly to keep a "bad" users or malware from spamming from a utm.edu address.We'll be moving to FOPE with Microsoft in the future (currently does our in-bound mail filtering

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
I see the conversation has continued as I wrote. I'll try to avoid duplication, but it would be a mess to rewrite the whole thing. Bruce Harrison writes: > OK, there are no headers in the Sent folder as the mail message > gets copied in there before it goes thru the mail systems, so > nothing

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/14/2013 10:17 AM, Bruce Harrison wrote: > I'm still suspecting the autocomplete in Outlook, but we can't make it repeat. If you want to see what arrives to Mailman, you can do the following: See the FAQ at on custom handlers. Code the following custom handler

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Bruce Harrison
Interesting... jsande...@utm.edu is a good address I'm still suspecting the autocomplete in Outlook, but we can't make it repeat. We've also seen this happen on both a Mac and a PC, with 2-3 different people... Bruce -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent:

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/14/2013 9:39 AM, Bruce Harrison wrote: > > Below is a message showing the problem and then it's headers. In this > message, the bogus email address is j...@mailman.utm.edu I just noticed something else. > MESSAGE > [...] > Cc: Judy Sandefer , "j...@mailman.utm.edu" > , Edie Gi

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/14/2013 9:39 AM, Bruce Harrison wrote: > OK, there are no headers in the Sent folder as the mail message gets copied > in there before it goes thru the mail systems, so nothing header wise to see > there. If the message in the sent folder has no Cc: information, then where does it come fro

Re: [Mailman-Users] strange problem

2013-03-14 Thread Bruce Harrison
OK, there are no headers in the Sent folder as the mail message gets copied in there before it goes thru the mail systems, so nothing header wise to see there. Below is a message showing the problem and then it's headers. In this message, the bogus email address is j...@mailman.utm.edu MESSAGE

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
ml lists wrote: > >I had/have the following >digest_size_threshhold = 30 >digest_send_periodic = no >digest_volume_frequency = weekly > >And if I understood correctly, this regardless of threshhold size >should only send weekly, no? No. This will send a digest whenever the size reaches about 30K

Re: [Mailman-Users] tabs or whitespaces added at subject line

2013-03-14 Thread Sergio Bastian Rodríguez
Thanks Stephen and Mark. Your helps are welcome. Regards _ Sergio Bastián Rodríguez Servicios de Conectividad y Datacenter Servicios y Arquitectura de Red TeleCable,SA +34 984 191 265 / +34 684 696 309 sbast...@telecable.com C/ Profeso

Re: [Mailman-Users] tabs or whitespaces added at subject line

2013-03-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Sergio Bastian Rodríguez writes: > Thanks for your answer, Mark. > > I can not understand one issue of that behaviour. All emails are > send/receive by the same email client, Outlook 2003 and 2007 > versions. So, when all costumers used the same client software , > is possible that sometim

Re: [Mailman-Users] tabs or whitespaces added at subject line

2013-03-14 Thread Sergio Bastian Rodríguez
Thanks for your answer, Mark. I can not understand one issue of that behaviour. All emails are send/receive by the same email client, Outlook 2003 and 2007 versions. So, when all costumers used the same client software , is possible that sometimes someone manage emails adding whitespaces into su

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

2013-03-14 Thread ml lists
On 13 March 2013 22:56, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Lists can be configured to send digests periodically > (digest_send_periodic = Yes), but the frequency is determined by how > often Mailman's cron/senddigests runs. > > You have probably set digest_size_threshhold to 0 thinking this means > unlimited