Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Exim + strange headers

On 05/19/2014 09:56 AM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > I am not exactly sure, but I wanted to try "fixing" this and see if > things got better. The real problem is Google/Gmail tagging the mailing > list messages as Spam, but since the headers are fine, the cause must be > something else. My expe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who authored the message?

On 05/19/2014 04:49 PM, John Levine wrote: >> Thank you for your feedback. I'm most inclined to handle replies based >> on the needs of the particular list. ... > No, I mean what will you do when people respond to your synthesized > names? At some point you'll get mail at the server for mydomain.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Exim + strange headers

On 05/19/2014 07:43 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Older versions of Mailman (I'm not sure how old) are known to > sometimes modify the headers by unfolding them and then refolding them > when reassembling the message. This may still be true of the most > recent versions. I believe this is c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve/Deny moderated posts via email - my failure to understand how

On 05/19/2014 08:09 AM, Drew Tenenholz wrote: > > When a moderated message came in this morning, I _thought_ I followed the > instructions by hitting reply, then adding the Approved header to the top of > the message body as below. > > What happened instead was that my message (I'm also an appr

Re: [Mailman-Users] What's the best choice as a list-owner w/out server-lvl access ?

Thanks, Mark. I get there are no really satisfactory solutions - I just needed something to try, to try and appease those who won't switch ESPs. Cheers, Cheryl On 05/19/2014 05:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/19/2014 04:32 AM, Cheryl D Johnson wrote: What are the best (and quickest) choices

Re: [Mailman-Users] What's the best choice as a list-owner w/out server-lvl access ?

On 05/19/2014 04:32 AM, Cheryl D Johnson wrote: > > What are the best (and quickest) choices for a list-admin with no > server-level access to Mailman? To turn off the bounces and/or set the > 'reply-to' to something specific like the list address? Or something else? A list owner with no server

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing sections in the latest version of the Mailman List Administration Manual

On 05/19/2014 04:15 AM, Jacques Setton (Waycast Corp) wrote: > > I had noticed that the new PDF Admin's Manual released on May 9 / 2014 was > showing > the same missing sections as in the one released on Sept 28 / 2013. Hence > my question... It was updated only to add some from_is_list and dm

[Mailman-Users] What's the best choice as a list-owner w/out server-lvl access ?

Hi folks, My webhost is running Mailman 2.1.15 at the moment and no indication if/when Mailman will be updated to 2.1.18-1. I'm managing several lists with Yahoo and AOL subscribers (and my boss) who are upset that they've been moderated and don't care to hear about the reasons why. What are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who authored the message?

>>> From: yahoousername-at-yahoo@mydomain.com >> Under the current unpleasant circumstances, it's not much worse than >> any other, give or take what you do with the replies. Do you forward >> them back to the original user? Reject with a mysterious failure >> code? Discard them? > >Thank y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who authored the message?

On 05/19/2014 10:02 AM, John Levine wrote: >> So, addresses get rewritten as: >> >> From: yahoousername-at-yahoo@mydomain.com >> My sense is that someone could come up with arguments as to why this is >> a bad idea, ... > It's a bad idea for the same reason that all of the other anti-DMARC > ha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who authored the message?

On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 20:45 -0700, Dave Nathanson wrote: > Since DEMARC we don't know who is authoring list messages anymore. The use of DMARC p=reject by ESPs _implies_ either some loss of information, or the necessity to encapsulate a list post losslessly as a MIME spec'd attachment. The forme

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who authored the message?

>So, addresses get rewritten as: > >From: yahoousername-at-yahoo@mydomain.com >My sense is that someone could come up with arguments as to why this is >a bad idea, ... It's a bad idea for the same reason that all of the other anti-DMARC hacks are a bad idea, they break the existing usage of m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Exim + strange headers

On Monday, May 19 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Sergio Durigan Junior writes: > > > As you can see, the first two "Received:" headers got messed up somehow, > > I don't understand what you mean by "messed up". They looked > perfectly readable and RFC-conforming to me. > > > and the lines a

[Mailman-Users] Approve/Deny moderated posts via email - my failure to understand how

All -- I must be confused about approving/denying moderated posts via email. Let's assume that, for the time being, I do not have access to the moderator web interface and MUST use email. When a moderated message came in this morning, I _thought_ I followed the instructions by hitting reply,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Possible to include unique link to archive in each message?

On 19/05/2014 15:29, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Rousell writes: > > > Can Mailman include the web archive URL for a message in the message > > header itself? > > Mailman 2 can't. Mailman 3 is able to do it, but I'm not sure what > the state of the art on implementing this conveniently f

[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Exim + strange headers

Sergio Durigan Junior writes: > As you can see, the first two "Received:" headers got messed up somehow, I don't understand what you mean by "messed up". They looked perfectly readable and RFC-conforming to me. > and the lines are not being prefix by \t but by one single space > char. This

[Mailman-Users] Possible to include unique link to archive in each message?

Mark Rousell writes: > Can Mailman include the web archive URL for a message in the message > header itself? Mailman 2 can't. Mailman 3 is able to do it, but I'm not sure what the state of the art on implementing this conveniently for list owers is. > As far as I can see, Mailman should have

[Mailman-Users] Possible to include unique link to archive in each message?

I've often wanted to know the URL of a specific message in an archive of a Mailman list so that I could refer to it in a later message. Unless I'm missing something, finding the URL requires manually going to the archive and searching for the message even if I happen to have it in front of me in my

[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Exim + strange headers

Hi there, I've recently set up Mailman on my server, which runs Exim as the MTA (Debian). Things worked almost like a charm, except for one little detail: the messages' headers seem a little strange to me. Take a look at this example: --8<---cut here---start-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing sections in the latest version of the Mailman List Administration Manual

>> As it says at (and >> ) "The GNU Mailman - List administrator's >> Manual by Terri Oda is available, but not yet complete." >> This is still the case. I had noticed that the new PDF Admin's Manual released on M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who authored the message?

On 05/13/2014 10:47 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Today I experimented with first_strip_reply_to set to No. >> >> This means that a reply is addressed to both the list and to previous >> author. >> If nodups = Yes. >> Then the previous author will get only 1 copy of the message. But the copy >> t