Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

On 06/17/2016 01:21 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > With > AOL it is difficult as they remove the original email address who is > complaining, Hotmail is OK and now Yahoo reports get sent to me > directly. AOL's redaction is both overkill and ineffective if you use VERP. I.e, with VERP, the envelope

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

Hi, I would work with the provider in this situation. In my case I run several lists which are all opt-in, but people click on the report as spam button in Yahoo and AOL, causing issues. I have an agreement with the hosting provider who run the network that if they get any complaints from AOL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Having searchable archives

On 06/17/2016 07:22 PM, Fabian Santiago wrote: > > Now, any chance you could give me a hand with mm3? Hehe... I have recently installed 2 'production' instances of MM 3 basically starting with mailman-bundler, but upgrading all the Mailman components to the heads of their respective branches

Re: [Mailman-Users] Having searchable archives

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thank you Sir! Now, any chance you could give me a hand with mm3? Hehe... On June 17, 2016 9:13:29 PM EDT, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 06/17/2016 04:50 PM, Fabian Santiago wrote: >> I run 2.1.22; that ok to install on top of? > > >If you installed

Re: [Mailman-Users] moderator page behind nginx with SSL

Hi, I have the same setup and the moderation pages work fine with my setup. I would recommend ensuring your hosts are set up correctly in mm_cfg.py so that HTTPS is used. Andrew. -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+andrew=hodgsonfamily@python.org]

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail cron jobs not running

On 06/17/2016 06:36 PM, Jason Fayre wrote: > > I administer a server that is running cPanel. The version of Mailman on > the server is 2.1.20. We're having an issue where the mailman cron jobs > don't seem to be running. Everything was working until cPanel did a > reinstall of mailman. Specificall

[Mailman-Users] mail cron jobs not running

Hello, I administer a server that is running cPanel. The version of Mailman on the server is 2.1.20. We're having an issue where the mailman cron jobs don't seem to be running. Everything was working until cPanel did a reinstall of mailman. Specifically, the daily digests aren't going out. Eve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Having searchable archives

On 06/17/2016 04:50 PM, Fabian Santiago wrote: > I run 2.1.22; that ok to install on top of? If you installed 2.1.22 from source, you can just bzr branch that branch and configure it with exactly the same configure command you used for 2.1.22 and make install it to upgrade. There should be no pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Having searchable archives

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I run 2.1.22; that ok to install on top of? On June 17, 2016 5:25:34 PM EDT, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 06/17/2016 11:39 AM, Fabian Santiago wrote: >> >> I've come across: >> >https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20make%20the%20archives%20searchable

Re: [Mailman-Users] Having searchable archives

On 06/17/2016 11:39 AM, Fabian Santiago wrote: > > I've come across: > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20make%20the%20archives%20searchable > > but the info there seems outdated. Ht://dig won't even ./configure on my > centos 7.2.x box. I use ht://Dig and essentially the Mailman branch a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is not Listserv - was: Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

No need for everyone to jump on this. Mark and I have already discussed it, and you can read that I won't use it again. cheers, JD On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:04 PM, am wrote: > I agree with Mark on the abuse of the term (as well as the quality of > product :-)) I correct this EVERYTIME I meet t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is not Listserv - was: Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

I agree with Mark on the abuse of the term (as well as the quality of product :-)) I correct this EVERYTIME I meet this abuse. earned me a reputation of a pedant, but the abuse has fallen off to nil. A. On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 06/17/2016 10:40 AM, Jim Dory wrote

[Mailman-Users] Having searchable archives

Hello, What is the current best way of implementing searchable archives hosted directly by my own server? Thanks. I've come across: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20make%20the%20archives%20searchable but the info there seems outdated. Ht://dig won't even ./configure on my centos 7.2.x bo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is not Listserv - was: Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

On 06/17/2016 10:40 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > I was using the term List-serv as a generic term meaning a mailing list > people subscribe to in order to receive messages sent by members via > email. I understand that and that is exactly the usage I object to. I understand I'm tilting at windmills and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

Thank you Rich, I do not subscribe anyone without making them first go through the subscribe process. The problem we're having lately is the ISP's are not passing on the confirmation email, so in a couple cases lately, after confirming the user tried the process (by their word is all I got) I do s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

I was using the term List-serv as a generic term meaning a mailing list people subscribe to in order to receive messages sent by members via email. I am not aware, nor care to be aware, of technical definitions between Mailman and Listserv. I am a volunteer so those concerns are above my pay grade.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

On 6/16/16 7:04 PM, Jim Dory wrote: So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts? /jim On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jim Dory wrote: We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

I'll second the suggestion that you split the list. I'll also suggest that you do *not* subscribe anyone to the split-off instance: you should make them go through a COI (confirmed opt-in) process AND you should make certain that you retain all records of that as long as the list exists. ("record

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

On 06/16/2016 04:04 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts? If you're looking for listserv(r), you're in the wrong place. See . To address your actual issue, the problem is your list members are reporting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam, abuse

Thanks for replies! I've discovered the Mailman document dealing with this issue: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/All%20messages%20from%20my%20list%20are%20being%20rejected%20by%20AOL%20%28or%20hotmail%2C%20or%20Yahoo%21%20or%20Google%20Gmail-googlemail%2C%20etc...%29%20as%20spam%2C and apologies for no

[Mailman-Users] Defending against DDOS style scanning

Hi Folks, We had a group of machines hit our mailman server hard last night -- trying all the advertised lists and their corresponding URLS. After shutting down and restarting the webserver, the attempts stopped. What (if anything) are folks doing to protect against such events? Thanks!

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam, abuse

On 6/17/16 9:21 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > We have mounting complaints from AOL, >> Yahoo and Hotmail I think that says it all... I have regular issues with the free email services, requiring email exchanges with their IT groups. Every time they tighten the SPAM/UCE rules, all hell breaks loose. :-/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

Hello Jim, I'm not sure what they mean by cross promotion, but you may want to separate your list into a public service announcement list and one for sales/trades/etc. I can help you find alternate hosting if you like. Feel free to contact me off list. Jim Ohlstein > On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:3

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts? /jim On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements > with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it > for public service announcements, pe

[Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it for public service announcements, people use it for selling/trading virtually anything (seal oil, outboards, guns, blue berries, you name it) and is by

Re: [Mailman-Users] moderator page behind nginx with SSL

I think it has to do the 'DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN' setting as discussed here: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.27%20Securing%20Mailman%27s%20web%20GUI%20by%20using%20Secure%20HTTP-SSL Not sure you are having the same problem that I did at one point but this was causing the moderation page to not work in

[Mailman-Users] moderator page behind nginx with SSL

The rest of mailman version 2.1.22 is working fine with SSL and some rewriting by nginx and yet https://cibolo.us/mailman/admindb/open_electroporator gives a message "will be sent over an insecure connection" when I seta button to discard and then do the submit all data button. Is there a way t