Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM / DMARC woes...

2017-10-02 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 09/21/2017 03:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The default behavior does nothing to DKIM related headers. This is from Defaults.py Is the REMOVE_DKIM_HEADERS option a per mailing list setting? Or is it Mailman wide? I'm looking through the list admin interface for Mailman 2.1.20 and not findin

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2017 05:37 PM, Terry . wrote: > > I don’t understand why either. Maybe the address is supposed to exist in > Exim, and not be visible via cPanel's interface (e.g. under "Forwarders"). > But it makes me wonder whether everything will work as designed with Mailman > under the current v

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-02 Thread Terry .
Thanks for your replies Stephen & Mark, and sorry for the long delay in getting back to you. Re Stephen's comment: > I don't understand why you don't have this address in the first place. > Mailman uses this address as envelope sender (and sometimes From) in > order to accept failed delivery

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2017 01:52 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 10/02/2017 02:54 PM, tlhackque via Mailman-Users wrote: > ... >> From your comments on this thread, Mailman V3 will not (yet) meet your >> expectations. > > Mailman 3 doesn't seem to be available from my distro vendor. That will change. I know D

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 10/02/2017 02:54 PM, tlhackque via Mailman-Users wrote: ... > From your comments on this thread, Mailman V3 will not (yet) meet your > expectations. Mailman 3 doesn't seem to be available from my distro vendor. -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 10/02/2017 02:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/02/2017 12:22 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: ... >>> Sep 25 15:53:57 2017 (7782) smtp to >>> XXX for 1 recips, completed in 0.081 seconds >> ... >>> Sep 25 15:59:06 2017 (7782) smtp to XXX >>> for 1 recips, completed in 0.061 seconds > > OK. So the

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 10/2/2017 12:37 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Could you point me at The Fine Manual for mailman where it says how many addresses I can subscribe through the web interface? I can't (and as Mark mentioned, it's installation-dependent), but it would be helpful to others if you would add something

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread tlhackque via Mailman-Users
On 02-Oct-17 15:35, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > Oh, I agree: mailman worked exactly as designed. Whoever designed that > particular assumed it'll take zero time to process an uploaded list of > an unknown size, and that did precisely what ass-u-me always does. No > surprises there, unfortunately. No, t

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2017 12:22 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > >> One big killer in delivery from Mailman to >> Postfix is recipient address validation at smtpd time. I.e., you don't >> want reject_unknown_recipient_domain in smtpd_recipient_restrictions. > > :) Well I do actually, this being our mail gateway,

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 10/02/2017 01:16 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > (My car is a great car > but won't carry 500kg of cargo, so I don't ask it to.) Well I bet your car comes with a manual that says what its max cargo capacity is. Could you point me at The Fine Manual for mailman where it says how many addresses I can

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 10/02/2017 02:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > And "abort the running op because my browser timed out" is not Mailman's > doing. That's your web server and its CGI interface. Oh, I agree: mailman worked exactly as designed. Whoever designed that particular assumed it'll take zero time to process an

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 10/02/2017 01:10 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > You need to look in Mailman's 'smtp' log to see how much time is being > taken to deliver to postfix. Close to .1 s, with an occasional .12 on the date in question. > One big killer in delivery from Mailman to > Postfix is recipient address validatio

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2017 07:47 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > Mailman's been been trouble- and maintenance-free for us since we > switched from whatever-that-perl-thing-was-called all those years ago, > and it never occurred to me it'd something as silly as abort the running > op because my browser timed out.

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 10/2/2017 7:58 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: PS there is nothing except postfix, spamd, mailman, and apache serving mailman's interface running on this server. It' running at load avg of 0.0 on 24 cores in 128GB of RAM. AFAICT the only reason for the software to croak on the list that size is it

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2017 07:58 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > OK, thanks. Now I get to draft 3,500 apologies and then resubscribe > everyone except the couple of people who replied with "please stop". If you use Mailman's mass subscribe (with smaller chunks, say 1000) you can add the apology to the new welc

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 2017-10-01 22:23, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > On 9/29/2017 11:34 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > >> (mailman 2.1.12 on centos 6.9) > > > > I don't think that Mark mentioned it, but 2.1.12 is -painfully- old (as > > is centos 6.9) and centos packages often lag way behind the >

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-10-01 17:50, Mark Sapiro wrote: On October 1, 2017 3:34:29 PM PDT, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: So I don't get it, are you saying that is *was* aborted after the CGI timed out? Yes. OK, thanks. Now I get to draft 3,500 apologies and then resubscribe everyone except the couple of people

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

2017-10-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 2017-10-01 22:23, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 9/29/2017 11:34 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: (mailman 2.1.12 on centos 6.9) I don't think that Mark mentioned it, but 2.1.12 is -painfully- old (as is centos 6.9) and centos packages often lag way behind the corresponding source versions. If you nee