[Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Jim Ziobro
Indeed email is not a synchronous messaging channel.  But most email clients will sort incoming messages by header Date thus undo the effects of out-of-order delivery.  Even if you send out two messages in a row to j...@gmail.com there is no guarantee that both messages go to the same machine.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/13/19 5:32 PM, Veronica Morris wrote: > Thanks all for the help! I submitted a ticket with DreamHost, and below is > their reply. I am hoping it makes a difference! It's typical of Nightmare er.. Dream Host. > Hello Veronica, > > Thanks for contacting DreamHost! > > Looking into this f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Veronica Morris
Thanks all for the help! I submitted a ticket with DreamHost, and below is their reply. I am hoping it makes a difference! Hello Veronica, Thanks for contacting DreamHost! Looking into this for you, it looks like Google is rate-limiting the emails, due to the emails not being authenticated (du

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Russell Clemings
FWIW, I've been seeing a lot more temporary ("We think you might be a spammer") delays from Gmail in the past few weeks. Usually the delays aren't very long, 10 or 15 minutes, and since it's throttling, they don't affect every message. That could definitely result in messages arriving out of order.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Veronica Morris
Thanks! I have not called them yet. We are a small nonprofit, and my husband handles all the contacts with dreamhost. I have asked him to contact them. Neither of us has much computer experience as you can probably tell :) Veronica Morris PhD and Hestia SD (Japanese Chin) Partnered wit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Brian Carpenter
Hi Veronica, What hosting service/platform are you using for your discussion list? Are you noticing delays with the same ISPs or does it vary by ISP? I would reach out to your hosting provider and then let know of 3 list members that are experiencing consistent delays and they should be able to re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 9/13/2019 9:50 AM, Veronica Morris wrote: How do I see mail logs? You need to talk with Dreamhost to get them, but they should be able to assist with the problem. Have you called them? Later, z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Us

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Brian Carpenter
Only your hosting provider can view those. Have a great day! Brian Carpenter EMWD.com br...@emwd.com From: Veronica Morris Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 12:50 PM To: Brian Carpenter Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and del

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Veronica Morris
How do I see mail logs? Sorry to be so dense! Veronica Morris PhD and Hestia SD (Japanese Chin) Partnered with a psychiatric service dog since 2005 President of Psychiatric Service Dog Partners veron...@psych.dog https://www.psychdogpartners.org http://www.doctorv.xyz https://www.youtube.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Brian Carpenter
You should be seeing almost instaneous deliveries with Gmail. The mail logs will show what’s going on. I know Dreamhost doesn’t use cPanel but I am not sure what mail server they us. I know Exim has some settings that can interfere with the timely deliveries of messages. Have a great day!

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/13/19 6:59 AM, Veronica Morris wrote: > I run an active discussion group. Messages come and go from people all > hours of the day. > > For the past few months, we've noticed that messages are arriving out of > order, and sometimes are delayed by hours or even a day! > > The kicker is that t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 9/13/2019 6:59 AM, Veronica Morris wrote: For the past few months, we've noticed that messages are arriving out of order, and sometimes are delayed by hours or even a day! Please remember that email is not a "real time" communication system; might look like it sometimes, but it's always "st

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Veronica Morris
I am using dreamhost. Almost all of the people on the listserv use gmail. I have asked if people with other email addresses experience the same problem, but no one has replied. Is that what you mean by ISP? Sorry I am very new to this type of thing! I have no experience with computers! I will

[Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Veronica Morris
I run an active discussion group. Messages come and go from people all hours of the day. For the past few months, we've noticed that messages are arriving out of order, and sometimes are delayed by hours or even a day! The kicker is that the delivery issues are not the same for everyone. Some p