the exact solution will be
found there. If you also search the archives of the list, you should
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es it says x attachments were scrubbed. Why is this. I notice
> this on other mail man lists I am a part of as well. what can I change to
> keep this from happening? have subscribers who are upset at me and who
> are leaving because of this.
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of a mail system work,
and how Mailman fits into that overall picture.
Blaming your car for being a piece of crap and not working isn't a
particularly useful or accurate activity to participate in, if you
couldn't be bothered to refill the fuel tank.
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nfortunately, this value does not appear to be something that is
defined in Mailman/Defaults.py or which could be over-ridden in
Mailman/mm_cfg.py. Moreover, this is going to affect all lists on
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> Is there any way by which I can find out the date on which a particular
> email id was added in mailman mailing list?
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we can feel comfortable enough in the beta that is
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> So, unless they want to upgrade twice, I think it's reasonable that
> they would want to wait for the final.
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"DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE", you find that there is only one
entry returned -- FAQ 4.30 at
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.030.htp>,
which covers how to change this value for a list that has already
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ll at all if
those transactional directories are shared across multiple machines.
You can share user mailboxes on /var/spool/mail via NFS, and there
are certain Mailbox formats that make that sort of thing easier and
more robust. But that's not the transactional queue files for the
MTA.
t. Then we can look at
that code and determine whether or not it can be incorporated into an
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list. The bounce comes back to Mailman, but since you didn't
actually send the message in question, Mailman doesn't know what to
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On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Allan Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2:34 +0900 12/17/07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> Allan Hansen writes:
>>
>>> That's interesting.
&
ou to tell what problems you are
seeing that are a result from their customized installation, and what
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gt; hope will happen here, if in fact I have been posting to the wrong place.
This is not necessarily the wrong place for you to be asking your
questions. Just keep in mind that we've been burned before by
several other parties, and when people start talking about
proprietary versions of Ma
for every single ISP in the world who wants to
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request, subscribe,
> unsubscribe?
If you're going to use the virtual alias table interface, then I
don't see an easier way around this problem. If you use local
aliases instead (which only have a "local" address portion leaving
off the host/domain part), then you should
you can take
(including putting the sender address on the auto-discard list, the
auto-accept list, etc...).
This is the only other way I know of to "automatically" put addresses
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format so that you have the possibility of having these bounces sent
back to wherever you want. Until the MTA is configured properly, and
the aliases are set up properly, there's nothing else you can do.
It all comes down to your ISP understanding how to operate and manage
Mailman corre
n solution 3? Maybe I could try those as well. We are already trying
> solution 4 which I have to say works perfectly.
An MUA is a Mail User Agent. In your case, the X-Mailer: header in
your message says that you're using "Microsoft Office Outlook 11" as
your MUA. In my
E formatting and things like what
you perceive to be an "attachment". This is explained in some detail
within the FAQ entry I referenced.
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t forget FAQ 4.39 at
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.039.htp>,
which addresses the problems of HTML-formatted messages and what
happens to them when you start stripping or flattening content, or
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. You can also turn on immediate
notices, if you want. However, there should not be any way you can
turn off the standard daily notices, short of disabling that cron job.
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t; address to auto-discard and ban the spammer from joining the list, in
> addition to simply discarding the email.
See above. All the stuff you want thrown away should be able to be
thrown away with just one and only one click.
You should only have to click on anything else if you want to rej
ey give her, at least up until the point she reconsiders
whether or not she's going to move at least her mailing list services
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w) for suspected spam--they send
> an email each night with the from and subject headers).
No, that's not a common name. I've been in this business for nearly
twenty years, and in all that time, I have never heard this
particular term used in this manner. More common terms are f
options.
Then your ISP has installed a pretty non-standard version of Mailman.
The standard version has this feature. Again, you need to talk to
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r email.
So long as the e-mail for your mailing lists are passing through the
same servers, then it doesn't matter. At that point, e-mail is
e-mail and it doesn't really matter who the sender is or who the
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services. Of course you could link those two if you want, but there
are plenty of mailing list only providers that you could at least
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sers mailing list, although I don't have any personal
experience with their particular service.
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o the
list (about two hours ago), because I didn't have a good answer for
you. I am responding now in the hopes that you will wait for answers
from others who might have better answers, instead of just sending
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e values in mm_cfg.py (if any) over-ride those from Defaults.py.
Of course, there's still the internal limits in
postfix, and there are many other performance
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in zero" or
"dom0" in virtualization parlance), and see if that at least helps
the tools produce information that makes more sense.
Running under dom0 may not solve the actual underlying problem of the
Mailman queue runners sucking up so much RAM, but at the very
e when using the same e-mail server has the
> mailman to manage mailing lists.
Search the Mailman FAQ Wizard for "performance tuning".
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source-code level changes to the
version of Mailman you're running, but then if you could do that then
you could probably upgrade to a more recent version.
As far as this particular issue is concerned, I'm afraid there aren't
many alternative options that are likely to be avail
system, but leave the rest set to "Defer", which should be the
default.
Then select this one check box, and hit the button which says "Submit
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xplain a very heavy load on the system.
Otherwise, I'm not sure I have enough information to be able to make
any more comments on this particular problem.
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than most other types of applications.
The types of applications that will tend to perform well under
virtualization are those which are CPU-bound, but are infrequently
used. The I/O-bound systems, especially those that are disk
I/O-bound on very specific issues
Teach your MTA to know that it is supposed to handle mail for those
addresses and deliver that to Mailman.
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On Dec 3, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Chris Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Chris Arnold
ooked through the Mailman manual, at the bit
> which says Postfix Integration, but to be honest, it was all greek to
> me.
>
> Anyone care to help me through it?
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er, this also requires modification
to the postfix configuration files, and if your provider doesn't
allow that, then obviously this won't be an option for you.
In short, you really need to talk to your provider.
Moreover, this doesn't have anything to do with MX records, so the
er, they should still be a relatively small
fraction of your overall volume.
Please let us know if you have any further questions, or if you'd be
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, is there a diagnostics program or some
> sort of reporting with mailman? I can't find anything in the docs.
There is nothing. This is related to the issue discussed in FAQ 1.30
at
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.030.htp>.
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/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-September/058231.html>.
I also updated FAQ 1.15 with the latest information about python.org.
See
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.015.htp>.
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cut network bandwidth, but at best, it seems to be about a 10%
improvement.
Keep in mind that this is for the test set described, but we believe
that this is a reasonably accurate description of many Mailman
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s, use the
command "postconf -n". A plain "postconf" will tell you what is
configured, but you won't know whether that setting comes from the
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re-install a new copy of Mailman on top of that (in case there are
architectural differences, etc... between the two machines), and then
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to filter the messages, it could re-send the message pretty much
exactly as it got it.
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instructions for searching this list can be found at
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If you don't find the answer when you look through the documentation
or by searching the FAQ Wizard, you should next t
ou had understood that answer and perhaps
corrected the perception by the user regarding this matter.
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"Received:" headers and see if they
are all identical between each of the messages, or if there are
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ion will be owned and
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I'm not sure if there are ways to automate these sorts of things
through the web interface. You'd need to check the appropriate entry
in the FAQ Wizard for the web automation stuff to see if that's
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the right program with the right command-line options. The easiest
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you can just set
your default nonmember action to be "discard" or "reject", and not
have to worry about any of the rest of this stuff.
Of course, that would be the mailing list equivalent of throwing away
all mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and if you were
actually doin
On 11/4/07, Brad Knowles wrote:
>On 11/4/07, Chuck Peters wrote:
>> What is required to make this work properly?
>
> From the Mailman side, they need to accept your port 25 connections,
> and queue and deliver the outgoing messages.
There's one other factor to conside
er off finding a hosting
company that doesn't have such limits and charges reasonable amounts.
But if you want to give Amazon's service a try, you should go ahead
and feel free to do that. In that case, please let us know what
steps you had to take in order to make it work for you, an
;s the actions and the
status that matters. The different times shown in the logs are just
going to be confusing to us humans.
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In the meanwhile, your choices are to use the whitelist, or to have
them subscribe multiple addresses and then set the others to be
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to bounce it --that's called "backscatter" and makes you as bad as the
spammer, and will probably result in your legitimate system being put
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On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:51 AM
ouncing on other lists. It is not a normal list to
which posts are made. You need to ensure that it exists and is
working as Mailman would expect, but you shouldn't have any other
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released soon, this
might be a good time for people to chime in with enhancements they'd
like to see made to mmdsr. It would be nice to get this updated
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On 10/29/07, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> That usually gets it, but in the RedHat FHS compliant package, the
> directory isn't named 'qfiles', so
D'oh!
> # find /var -name virgin -print
>
> might be more successful.
Just goes to show you how much I kno
se, you'd need to find out where they put that
stuff. Somewhere under /var is a good guess, but unless you find
someone who's installed the same binary package of Mailman on the
same platform, then you're left with doing a command like:
# find /var -name qfiles -print
.4, or to install a second copy of Python 2.4 and
rebuild Mailman to explicitly point to that alternative version.
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Mailman-specific configuration files), but you didn't copy over the
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once,
> with a 1 hour delay.
That's not something that Mailman can help you with. See FAQ 4.51.
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
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EFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.example.com'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
add_virtualhost('lists.example.com', 'lists.example.com')
It doesn't get much simpler than that.
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> I searched for this problem, but did not find an answer...only others
> asking the same question. What is the best way to go about doing this?
FAQ 4.40.
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e data is historical or current), or to
do the log data summary plus the current condition report.
Let me think about that, and see if I have any time available.
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> I wonder if there is a way to configure some or all users to be able
> to post no more than a given number of messages per day.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Search the FAQ wizard for "rate limiting".
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> How to create two lists with same name, but different domain name and
> different users ?
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Okay" at the end of the SMTP dialog.
Otherwise you're accepting spam and taking the serious risk that
you'll generate a backscatter bounce to a forged address.
See FAQ 6.12 for one take on this type of solution. And don't ignore
FAQ 4.64, either.
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oned a book that I wrote or co-authored, or a book that
I had been technical reviewer of (e.g., 2nd editions of the O'Reilly
books _DNS & BIND_ and _sendmail_) and I provided a link to the
publishers web page for the book, would you have done anything
different?
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member of SAGE would be effectively free.
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