Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated Subscription Bots Inundating ListOwners With Subscription Requests

2012-12-09 Thread Ivan Fetch
On Nov 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote at > : > >> I have implemented a simple version of what I think you requested in >> your post at >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Memory usage climbs for 3rd and 4th outgoingqrunner process

2011-08-24 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi Mark, On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Ivan Fetch wrote: >> >> I am curious what would cause an outgoing queue runner process to increase >> in memory usage, when Mailman is idle? > > > [...] >> >> Even when Mailman is idle and

[Mailman-Users] Memory usage climbs for 3rd and 4th outgoing qrunner process

2011-08-21 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, I am curious what would cause an outgoing queue runner process to increase in memory usage, when Mailman is idle? I am running 4 outgoing qrunner slices, using this in mm_cfg.py: try: QRUNNERS.remove(('OutgoingRunner', 1)) QRUNNERS.append(('OutgoingRunner', 4)) except ValueError:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-15 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi Brad, On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:49 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: On 08/14/2011 11:24 PM, Ivan Fetch wrote: Brad, I think we are already accomplishing a lot of this minimalism, since the MTA on the Mailman VM is only accepting the message via SMTP, then handing it off to Mailman via the Postfix aliases

[Mailman-Users] Are Mailman's files sparse?

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, As part of copying our Mailman data from one box to another, I wanted to verify: are any of Mailman's data files, sparse, E.G> the .pck files and other files in the data directory? It looks to me like the answer to this is no. Thanks, Ivan. . ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi Brad, On Aug 14, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > The majority of the MTA tuning tips that I know of should be applicable > to most any mailing list manager, since they are oriented towards > helping the MTA better deal with large amounts of outgoing mail, and > optimizing certain ty

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, On Aug 14, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > No. Threaded delivery in SMTPDirect.py was an experimental feature in > Mailman 2.0. It was never implemented for Mailman 2.1 although the > setting and its documentation were not removed from Defaults.py. Setting > this in mm_cfg.py has no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, THanks Mark, I appreciate this. MOre below: On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > It seems the major hurdle is in processing the 'out' queue. It is > possible to slice OutgoingRunner to provide some parallelism in this > process and that may speed things up, but I suspect t

[Mailman-Users] Mailman throughput

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, I am trying to gage the capability of a Mailman virtual machine, which we will be moving our lists to. I'd like to do my best to size and tune this VM, and it's Postfix and Mailman installation, before putting it in production, and potentially having to troubleshoot and tune in a hurry.

Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading list and other data from 2.1.9 to2.1.14

2011-02-03 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: That is correct, but there may be timing issues. Are you changing DNS or physically reassigning the IP address to the new box. If you're changing DNS, I'd start now and give all the relevant DNS entries a 5 minute or less TTL, so you don't have to

Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading list and other data from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14

2011-02-03 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, thanks for your reply, On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Ivan Fetch wrote: Is it possible to copy list and archives data from a 2.1.9 Mailman installation, to a 2.1.14 installation, and run bin/update to update data from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14? I assume bin/update will make any

[Mailman-Users] upgrading list and other data from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14

2011-02-03 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, Is it possible to copy list and archives data from a 2.1.9 Mailman installation, to a 2.1.14 installation, and run bin/update to update data from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14? I assume bin/update will make any necessary changes to data structures, from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14? Here is why I am doing this:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving / upgrading Mailman from Solaris to Linux

2010-11-11 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, Thank you, Mark, Adam, and Andrew for your replies. More below. > -Original Message- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:19 AM > To: Ivan Fetch; MailMan > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving / upgrading Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redundant Mailman servers

2010-11-10 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi John, -Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+ifetch=du@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+ifetch=du@python.org] On Behalf Of John Wingenbach Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:55 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Redundant Mailman servers

[Mailman-Users] Moving / upgrading Mailman from Solaris to Linux

2010-11-10 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, We are planning to move our Mailman installation from Solaris to Linux, and upgrade in the process. I'd love to hear from anyone who has run production Mailman on Linux. What experiences have list members had with RedHat vs. Ubuntu Mailman packages, vs. compiling Mailman from source? A

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frequent use of clone_member

2010-11-01 Thread Ivan Fetch
HI Stephen, -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:step...@xemacs.org] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:13 PM To: Ivan Fetch Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Frequent use of clone_member Ivan Fetch writes: > One possibility we're explorin

[Mailman-Users] Frequent use of clone_member

2010-10-21 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, We are changing student email from mailboxes, to forwarding addresses. Among other challenges, we are exploring various ways to deal with students who are subscribed to closed (only subscribers may post) mailing lists. (There are a lot of similar challenges when switching to an email for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Storing list admin password in LDAP, or unencrypted?

2010-07-09 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: Ivan Fetch wrote: We would like to integrate Mailman with a spam quarantine system. List admin(s) will need to login to manage quarantined messages, and we would like this login to use the list admin password. I'd like some feedback o

[Mailman-Users] Storing list admin password in LDAP, or unencrypted?

2010-07-08 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, We would like to integrate Mailman with a spam quarantine system. List admin(s) will need to login to manage quarantined messages, and we would like this login to use the list admin password. I'd like some feedback on the best way to accomplish this, with Mailman. I can think o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Very busy list says send_digests failed, Too many links (fwd)

2009-08-29 Thread Ivan Fetch
for clearing that up. Ivan. --- Ivan Fetch University of Denver Computer Operations, University Technology Services 303-871-3092 On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote: Ivan Fetch wrote: I'm sorry to email you directly, but I believe the below email (sent twice) is not making it to the m

[Mailman-Users] Very busy list says send_digests failed, Too many links

2009-08-28 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, We had a list get around 30,000 messages today. Eventually, we noticed emails to this list were really piling up in Mailman's "in" queue, and the error log showed a lot of: Aug 26 13:44:22 2009 (9443) send_digests() failed: [Errno 31] Too many links: '/mail/mailman/mailman/archiv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Load-balancing mailman between two servers

2006-11-29 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:03 PM +1100 11/27/06, Guy Waugh quoted Kim Hawtin: > >>> How/where do you share the incoming mail list aliases that sendmail checks? >>> >>> Also when you create a new list, how to you update the other hosts aliases? >>> >> On each server

[Mailman-Users] request.pck does not match heldmsg-Listname files

2006-11-16 Thread Ivan Fetch
d files in the mailman/data directory so they can be deleted? Thanks, Ivan Fetch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

[Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.1.5 to 2.1.9

2006-11-08 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, IT's (past) time to upgrade our mailman 2.1.5 installation to version 2.1.9. I'm wondering whether anyone has experience they'd like to share going directly from 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 -- anything to be aware of in terms of the upgrade process or user experiences (meaning list administ

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTA only for Mailman

2006-07-28 Thread Ivan Fetch
ven't found simelar functionality in Sendmail's m4 files yet. ;) Any Sendmial experts out there who know this right off the top of their head? I certainly could install Postfix in global storage (so all cluster nodes can use it) and go that route too. Thanks, Ivan Fetch. On Thu, 2

[Mailman-Users] MTA only for Mailman

2006-07-27 Thread Ivan Fetch
s for any feedback on MTAs, or a more sensable way to accomplish this. - Ivan Fetch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.p

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Control

2005-11-04 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi Kevin, Where would you like the spam to be put instead of the hold directory? If the spam is filtered to some other folder, there will still be something which will need to be cleaned at some point. There's always the "Discard held messages older than this number of days" option in ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Control

2005-11-04 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi Kevin, I'm curious, how are you filtering spam - with a spam filtering rule that matches a particular header and holds the message? If so, do you have lists configured to send notifications for held messages? We found that this of course generates backscatter ("your message has been he

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and multimaster redundancy

2005-11-04 Thread Ivan Fetch
like a bad idea). Perhaps it's time to setup a test bed. Thanks - Ivan. On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Ivan Fetch wrote: >> >>However, you can't have two instances of Mailman running at the same >> time, acting on the shared data storage (lists, arch

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and multimaster redundancy

2005-11-04 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, However, you can't have two instances of Mailman running at the same time, acting on the shared data storage (lists, archives, Etc) correct? - Ivan Fetch. On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:24 PM -0500 2005-11-03, Mordechai T. Abzug wrote: > >> I

Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown encoding crashes qrunner

2005-10-06 Thread Ivan Fetch
ner(s) isn't something else... Thanks, - Ivan. On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Ivan" == Ivan Fetch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Ivan> I'm confused as to why the unknown encoding is "unknown" - >Iv

[Mailman-Users] unknown encoding crashes qrunner

2005-10-05 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, We have occasions where mailman (2.1.5) seases processing messages sent to lists - looking in the error log I have this (which I am not entirely sure is related, but it seems plausable): ** begin log ** Oct 05 08:44:51 2005 (15118) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: unknow

Re: [Mailman-Users] Synchronizing Mailman between two servers.

2005-09-22 Thread Ivan Fetch
/ modification times of particualr files or directories, relative to the current time? Are there any ideas or comments from others doing or looking into this? - Ivan Fetch. >> I'm very interested in the solution you chose, and in how well it works >> for you. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails with a Subject in Chinese to a Mailing List

2005-08-27 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hi, Ah exactly - I believe this is what we've got on our test box. Thanks - Ivan. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Bruce Wang wrote: > On 8/27/05, Ivan Fetch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> We've encountered this issue, and (long story shorter) i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails with a Subject in Chinese to a Mailing List

2005-08-26 Thread Ivan Fetch
Hello, We've encountered this issue, and (long story shorter) it is fixed in Mailman 2.1.6 if you install the codecs for Python (I believe they come with Python 2.4). This issue works now for me on a Mailman 2.1.6 test box. IF you are still having difficulty after looking into the cod

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix and mailman issues

2005-07-01 Thread Ivan Fetch
ite email address destination (aka send to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets accepted and correctly > sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). My question is, is that line actually talking > about adding the above to virtual-mailman > and not virtual? > > Mike > > Ivan Fetch wrote: > >&g

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix and mailman issues

2005-07-01 Thread Ivan Fetch
command)) > > Do I need to add to the top of virtual-mailman: > > washingtongamers.org IGNORE > > /etc/postfix/virtual contains washingtongamres.org aliases not related to the > mailing list? Could this be causing the problem? > > Mike > > > > Ivan Fetch wrote

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix and mailman issues

2005-06-30 Thread Ivan Fetch
request ListName" ListName-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe ListName" ListName-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe ListName" Let me know if I am not making sense, or if you still have problems, I'm happy to try to help. Tha

[Mailman-Users] bounce_processing=0 has no affect?

2005-05-25 Thread Ivan Fetch
very, then unsubscribing users who exceed the thresholds). AM I misunderstanding the description of the bounce_processing option, or is there a patch I have yet to discover? Thank you - Ivan Fetch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@pytho

Re: [Mailman-Users] What am I missing: HTML messages are being stripped?

2005-03-24 Thread Ivan Fetch
ark Sapiro wrote: Ivan Fetch wrote: If I turn off content filtering for the list, HTML messages arrive ok, however it seems as though we should be able to have content filtering turned on yet HTML messages passing through unharmed with the settings indicated above - what am I missing? The HTML

[Mailman-Users] What am I missing: HTML messages are being stripped?

2005-03-24 Thread Ivan Fetch
content filtering for the list, HTML messages arrive ok, however it seems as though we should be able to have content filtering turned on yet HTML messages passing through unharmed with the settings indicated above - what am I missing? Thanks, Ivan Fetch

[Mailman-Users] Accepting "implicit destination" messages based on other headers?

2005-03-23 Thread Ivan Fetch
header, without opening things up to much by putting something overly general in acceptable_aliases. Thank you, Ivan Fetch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman maintenance from the shell and "mailman" group

2005-03-21 Thread Ivan Fetch
. Thanks - Ivan. On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, John Dennis wrote: On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 11:01 -0700, Ivan Fetch wrote: Hello, We'd like to have multiple people manage our mailman installation via shell access, and are looking at adding their Unix accounts to the mailman group. This seems to work,

[Mailman-Users] Mailman maintenance from the shell and "mailman" group

2005-03-21 Thread Ivan Fetch
gin as the mailman account, but it'd be nicer if they could use their own accounts. Thank you, Ivan Fetch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting Up a List Via Command Line?

2005-02-04 Thread Ivan Fetch
uests" because a requests python pickle does not yet exist. # BY querying the list for the number of requests pending, this file will get created. def fixNegativePendingRequests (mlist): klugevar=mlist.NumRequestsPending() mlist.Save() I hope this helps if you haven

Re: [Mailman-Users] respond_to_post_requests and header_filter_rules

2005-01-31 Thread Ivan Fetch
am. Is the help text of respond_to_post_requests inaccurate in how it claims that notifying posters of held messages excludes spam filtering? Thank you - Ivan Fetch. --- Ivan Fetch University of Denver Computer Operations, University Technology Services 303-871-3092 On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Tok

[Mailman-Users] respond_to_post_requests and header_filter_rules

2005-01-31 Thread Ivan Fetch
eld because a filter was matched. It would be nice to be able to avoid responding to messages which Mailman matches against the spam filters, as often the From address is forged anyhow... IS there something I'm missing which will give me the behavior I'm looking for RE: spam

[Mailman-Users] Mailman (almost) Failover with --with-var-prefix

2004-12-03 Thread Ivan Fetch
eb server; potentually both machines could be accessing the shared Mailman data at the same time)? Thanks, Ivan Fetch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.