Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/10/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If you aren't getting the summary, either cron isn't running checkdbs > or you are so diligent at dealing with held messages that there never > are any outstanding when checkdbs runs. Duh... ok, there is no daily cron job for it (I had someon

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/10/07, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Mailman sends a summary every morning with the From: and Subject: of >> the held posts waiting moderator action. > > Where is this option? I don't currently get these, but I'd like to... That's a standard Mailman cron job. You can also turn on immediate

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Charles Marcus wrote: >On 12/10/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Mailman sends a summary every morning with the From: and Subject: of >> the held posts waiting moderator action. > >Where is this option? I don't currently get these, but I'd like to... There is no option for this pe

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/10/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Mailman sends a summary every morning with the From: and Subject: of > the held posts waiting moderator action. Where is this option? I don't currently get these, but I'd like to... -- Best regards, Charles ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/9/07, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > False positive means it's legit mail that is in my spam folder. Using my > ISP's defaults. Sounds like you need to talk to your ISP about how those defaults can be changed to be something more suitable for you. > Anything in moderation for MM must be click

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/10/07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > There are alternatives such as SpamBayes which may be easier to > integrate. Everything is being done by her ISP, so I don't know that it's useful to discuss alternative solutions. Either way, she's got to live with whatever they give her, at least u

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/9/07, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > But this isn't useful to me. Oh, I'm sure some of the really bad spam > would go away, but this is a health list and so there are *a lot* of false > positives because we mention a lot of spam-like keywords. So I'd have to > set the spam level pretty high.

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/9/07, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: >>> Is there a way *I* can without the ISP doing anything? > >>Yes. Set up your spam filters under "Privacy options..." then >> "Spam filters". > > There is nothing called spam filters in privacy options. Then your ISP has installed a pretty non-standa

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz writes: > This will not work in my situation for more than a certain percentage of my > non-member posts. The details aren't important (to this list anyway). Sure, but you're being nibbled to death by mice. Everything that you can offload onto other people is more time for you t

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:44:29 +0900 > If the spam problem is too great, I may have to disallow non-member posts > except for people who write me asking to be put on an approved list. I > have several regular posters who are not s

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz writes: >Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:34:45 -0800 >From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >How about rejecting or discarding non-member posts instead of holding >them. does that help? > > If the spam problem is too great, I may have to disallow non-member posts

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:19:50 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So if I understand, you want spam filtering to apply only to non-members who aren't in accept_these_nonmembers. That would be my preference. But I would accept any form of spam filtering and then simply work w

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz writes: > But this isn't useful to me. Oh, I'm sure some of the really bad spam > would go away, but this is a health list and so there are *a lot* of false > positives because we mention a lot of spam-like keywords. So I'd have to > set the spam level pretty high. Heh. You'r

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > >I agree. There is no easy way I see of doing what I want. I guess I need >to see what all the options are and play with it for a while and see what >my ISP does. So if I understand, you want spam filtering to apply only to non-members who aren't in accept_these_nonmember

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:mailman-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cyndi > Norwitz > Sent: Monday, 10 December 2007 4:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:34:45 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How about rejecting or discarding non-member posts instead of holding them. does that help? If the spam problem is too great, I may have to disallow non-member posts except for people who write me asking to be

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > > Does list mail (received posts) have any SpamAssassin headers, e.g. > X-Spam-Status:, X-Spam-Flag:, X-Spam-Level:. > >Not taht I can see. Here's a sample header from a spam attempted post: > >Received: from b.mx.sonic.net (b.mx.sonic.net [209.204.159.4]) > by l

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:21:01 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cyndi Norwitz wrote: >There is nothing called spam filters in privacy options. In the admin interface, there should be four sub-pages under Privacy options... Yeah, duh, somehow I missed that :) Does

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > >The spam sent to the posting address will be in my moderation window. >Mixed with the legit posts. That is the problem. Saying "this is spam so >I'm sending it to you for moderation" is not helpful. The stuff is already >in moderation. How about rejecting or discardin

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > > Yes. Set up your spam filters under "Privacy options..." then "Spam > filters". > >There is nothing called spam filters in privacy options. In the admin interface, there should be four sub-pages under Privacy options... * Subscription rules * Sender filters

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:24:32 +0900 Almost. If you worry about false positives, you can ask them to make sure that the "spam level header" which gives a "spamminess rating" according to the number of stars (eg, X-Spam-Level: ***

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:11:00 -0600 From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No, that they haven't taken the steps to integrate it with MM yet and have > no immediate plans to do so. They don't need to. So long as they're running SpamAssassin on their machines and using the

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Brad Knowles writes: > On 12/9/07, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > > >>I thought you earlier wrote that SpamAssassin *is* being run by the > >> ISP, > > > > Correct. > > > >>but "can't be used" with Mailman. > > > > No, that they haven't taken the steps to integrate it with MM yet and

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/9/07, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: >>I thought you earlier wrote that SpamAssassin *is* being run by the ISP, > > Correct. > >>but "can't be used" with Mailman. > > No, that they haven't taken the steps to integrate it with MM yet and have > no immediate plans to do so. They don't need t

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:57:57 +0900 I thought you earlier wrote that SpamAssassin *is* being run by the ISP, Correct. but "can't be used" with Mailman. No, that they haven't taken the steps to integrate it with MM yet and have no im

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz writes: >Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 08:49:30 -0800 >From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >SpamAssassin is much better integrated in the MTA ahead of Mailman, but >if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point, >refer them to > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 08:49:30 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SpamAssassin is much better integrated in the MTA ahead of Mailman, but if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point, refer them to

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Mark Sapiro wrote: > if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point, > refer them to > . I can endorse this patch ... I've used it for years and it works great. david -- System i ... fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > >Well, I'm happy with my ISP and have no plans to move *again*. But I will >ask them again if they can do it. The reply I got from them was: "In the >

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > >Well, I'm happy with my ISP and have no plans to move *again*. But I will >ask them again if they can do it. The reply I got from them was: "In the >future Sonic.net could integrate SpamAssassin into Mailman but that's not >currently on anyones plate." SpamAssassin is mu

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 01:53:21 -0600 I was talking about moving just your mailing lists, not all your ISP services. Of course you could link those two if you want, but there are plenty of mailing list only providers that you could at least

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

I was talking about moving just your mailing lists, not all your ISP services. Of course you could link those two if you want, but there are plenty of mailing list only providers that you could at least check out. -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2007, at

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 00:27:11 -0600 From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Mailman doesn't have great tools for this. Instead, you should >configure your mail server to reject or discard the spam messages >before they ever get to Mailman. > > Any ideas how to d

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/7/07, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: >> Now, I am getting everyday about 100s of spam emails in that >list. Please >> advise how to deal with this? > >Mailman doesn't have great tools for this. Instead, you should >configure your mail server to reject or discard the spam messages >

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:35:56 -0600 From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 12/7/07, Vinita Aggarwal wrote: > Now, I am getting everyday about 100s of spam emails in that list. Please > advise how to deal with this? Mailman doesn't have great tools for this. Instead, you s

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

On 12/7/07, Vinita Aggarwal wrote: > Now, I am getting everyday about 100s of spam emails in that list. Please > advise how to deal with this? Mailman doesn't have great tools for this. Instead, you should configure your mail server to reject or discard the spam messages before they ever get

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Vinita Aggarwal wrote: > >I have a list in which anyone can post. "Hold the positing from non >members". > >Now, I am getting everyday about 100s of spam emails in that list. Please >advise how to deal with this? It is best to start a new topic on a list by creating a new message, not by replying

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

Hi I am not very sound in mailman configuration. I have a list in which anyone can post. "Hold the positing from non members". Now, I am getting everyday about 100s of spam emails in that list. Please advise how to deal with this? Regards, Vinita Aggarwal -Original Message- From: [EMA