Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 9:09 AM -0800 12/9/06, Mark Sapiro wrote: > There are other settings that could cause pipermail archiving to fail > or be bypassed for a particular installation. Correct. However, my understanding at the time was that the pipermail functionality wasn't just disabled, it was never available

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 06:04:55PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Dec 7, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote: > > > I've just spent two days manipulating a bunch of mbox files into > > archives. > > Let me tell you how it goes: > > [Screams

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Brad Knowles wrote: > >The problem is that the conversation I had with Alan up to that point >had lead me to believe that we were talking about a standard Mailman >installation as provided in package format by Debian, and yet Alan's >configuration clearly lacked what I consider to be a pretty im

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 3:16 PM +0900 12/9/06, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >The mailman package did install a > complete Mailman on several Debian systems where I use Mailman. Understood. At least, now I do. The problem is that the conversation I had with Alan up to that point had

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 1:43 AM -0500 12/9/06, John A. Martin wrote: > Oops. The first sentence of mine above was intended to end with a > question mark rather than an exclamation mark. Maybe that would have > sounded better. That would have been somewhat better, yes. > Brad> I didn't say that Debian did.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles >>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)" >>>>> Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:28:19 -0600 Brad> At 10:17 PM -0500 12/8/06, John A. Martin wrote: >> >> I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Brad Knowles writes: > I've never claimed to be a Debian expert, and if they're mucking > about with packages that include certain features by default in order > to remove those features, then there's not much I can do to help the > poor souls that are stuck with that kind of stuff. That's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 10:17 PM -0500 12/8/06, John A. Martin wrote: > >> I've never claimed to be a Debian expert, and if they're > >> mucking about with packages that include certain features by > >> default in order to remove those features, > > What makes you, Brad, think that Debian removes pipermai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Tomblin >>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)" >>>>> Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:04:51 -0500 >>>>> "Alan" == Alan McConnell >>>>> "Re: [

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Quoting Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > At 11:43 AM -0500 12/8/06, John A. Martin wrote: > > See for a > > description of the Debian Mailman package that "integrates > > archiving ...". Further down that page under the heading > > "Do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 11:43 AM -0500 12/8/06, John A. Martin wrote: > See for a > description of the Debian Mailman package that "integrates > archiving ...". Further down that page under the heading > "Download mailman" click on one of the "list of files"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Brad Knowles wrote: >At 7:52 AM -0500 12/8/06, Alan McConnell quoted me: > >>> Uh, what version of Mailman is that? I thought that Mailman had >>> fully integrated Pipermail along with the base code, for many years >>> now? Are they running Mailman 1.x or something? >> >> mm 2.1.5 . But

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 8, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Paul Tomblin wrote: >> In that case, shouldn't any message that reaches mailman with an >> unescaped From_ line in the body already be handled properly? It >> seems like something else must be borked. That or all of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Paul Tomblin wrote: > Oh right, now I get it. I told you I didn't know Python, but I > should have been able to figure that > def __init__(self, outfp, mangle_from_=True, maxheaderlen=78): > meant that it defaulted to True in Generator.py so didn't need to be > changed in Mailman. :-) I actu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles >>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)" >>>>> Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:52:26 -0600 Brad> At 7:52 AM -0500 12/8/06, Alan McConnell quoted me: >>> U

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Quoting Todd Zullinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Paul Tomblin wrote: > >>Quoting Barry Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >>> It already does escape From lines in the body of the message. It > >>> does this by way of the email package's Generator class, which is > >>> instantiated w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Mark Sapiro wrote: > Paul Tomblin wrote: > >>Quoting Barry Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >>> >>> It already does escape From lines in the body of the message. It >>> does this by way of the email package's Generator class, which is >>> instantiated with mangle_from_=True. >> >>Must be a newer vers

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Have I mentioned recently how long I've been looking for a volunteer > to help make all this not suck? ;} Pipermail is just one of those > things that people either live with or ditch. I've used Hypermail for probably a decade to archive Majordomo l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 7:52 AM -0500 12/8/06, Alan McConnell quoted me: >> Uh, what version of Mailman is that? I thought that Mailman had >> fully integrated Pipermail along with the base code, for many years >> now? Are they running Mailman 1.x or something? > > mm 2.1.5 . But under Debian, so it has ex

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 06:23:40PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 4:57 PM -0500 12/7/06, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > Meanwhile, I am adminning(sp?), through my ISP, a new but quite active > > E-list. But their mailman install is incomplete; they haven't put in > > Pipermail(about which I know _n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Paul Tomblin wrote: >Quoting Barry Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> >> It already does escape From lines in the body of the message. It >> does this by way of the email package's Generator class, which is >> instantiated with mangle_from_=True. > >Must be a newer version than the one in Debian

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Quoting Barry Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Dec 7, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote: > >Speaking of which, is there any way to modify Mailman so that when it > >puts a mail message in the mbox, it pre-escapes the "^From " lines in > >the message? Mailman knows the message boundaries at tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 5:22 PM -0500 12/7/06, Paul Tomblin wrote: > 6. Discover an awk script in the mailman archives that will split the mbox > archive into managable chunks. Fix it so that it splits them into 500 > message chunks instead of the 80 message chunks it defaults to. There's also the "formmail" tool

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

At 4:57 PM -0500 12/7/06, Alan McConnell wrote: > Meanwhile, I am adminning(sp?), through my ISP, a new but quite active > E-list. But their mailman install is incomplete; they haven't put in > Pipermail(about which I know _nothing_). Uh, what version of Mailman is that? I thought that Mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 7, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote: > Quoting Barry Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> [Screams of pain omitted] >> >> Have I mentioned recently how long I've been looking for a volunteer >> to help make all this not suck? ;} Pipermail is ju

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 7, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote: > Quoting Paul Tomblin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> 8. Discover that the mbox file had a bunch of un-escaped "From " >> lines >> that confused bin/arch and so you have a bunch of half-articles in >> today

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Quoting Barry Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [Screams of pain omitted] > > Have I mentioned recently how long I've been looking for a volunteer > to help make all this not suck? ;} Pipermail is just one of those > things that people either live with or ditch. I suppose it would be a good exc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Quoting Paul Tomblin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > 8. Discover that the mbox file had a bunch of un-escaped "From " lines > that confused bin/arch and so you have a bunch of half-articles in today's > archive page that shouldn't be there. Run bin/cleanarch to fix them, blow > away the html archives, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 7, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote: > I've just spent two days manipulating a bunch of mbox files into > archives. > Let me tell you how it goes: [Screams of pain omitted] Have I mentioned recently how long I've been looking for a volu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

I just checked my blog, and found I message a step: Quoting Paul Tomblin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've just spent two days manipulating a bunch of mbox files into archives. > Let me tell you how it goes: > > 1. Blow away the html archives. You may prefer to use that arch command > we were just dis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Quoting Alan McConnell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Meanwhile, I am adminning(sp?), through my ISP, a new but quite active > E-list. But their mailman install is incomplete; they haven't put in > Pipermail(about which I know _nothing_). I'm saving all the messages -- > mbox format -- and have the hope

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 03:37:41PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > > What, "rm -rf" not good enough for you? Yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, I am adminning(sp?), through my ISP, a new but quite active E-list. But their mailman install is incomplete; they haven't put in Pipermail(about which I k