Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:49 AM -0700 3/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Then there's the group who are running something like Windows ME who > are adamant that "my time is too valuable for me to learn anything." > What are we going to do, kick them off the list with a "learn-ya > damn-ya!" I certainly feel that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Denis Morejón López wrote: >I have about 15 lists. Some of them become a dark hole some times, since >users can not send to or receive from these lists. I do not see any error >log in /var/log/mailman/error, only some pck files into >/var/spool/mailman/shunt/. >I just tried /usr/lib/mailman/bin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Denis Morejón López
Hello guys: I have about 15 lists. Some of them become a dark hole some times, since users can not send to or receive from these lists. I do not see any error log in /var/log/mailman/error, only some pck files into /var/spool/mailman/shunt/. I just tried /usr/lib/mailman/bin/unshunt /var/spool/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >These are the hard realities of the Consumer Internet. The last thing >my partner and I **need** is a Unix-like encrypted password and having >to reset passwords as root. You won't have to do the reset as root or at all, except of course for those clueless users who

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: > > At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! > > Wh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But, for those for whom they are useful, here's a possibility. This is > not a promise, but rather a suggestion. I first saw it it a comment by > Glen Seib on the wiki . > > The suggestion (with interpretation

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: > >I'm starting to think that my average mailing list user won't remember the >URL they used to subscribe, they don't file away that email they get when >they subscribe with all the instructions, that they don't read the footer >on every message, and they don't read the monthly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! Who needs periodic reminders, when there will be a rese

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > In the longer term (Mailman 2.2) password reminders and the site list > are both going away. > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL flaming demands that we un

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > User passwords are (finally) going to be encrypted, so there's no way > to send a reminder. The existing, on demand reminder will be replaced Ohh, good idea. > It would be interesting to keep track of requests from users for things > they can do for them

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: > >*All* password reminders are going away? I'm kind of worried about that - >I get enough emails from people who say "can you change my email address >to [EMAIL PROTECTED]", I'm pretty sure that without the monthly reminders I'd >get >three times as many. User passwords are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > In the longer term (Mailman 2.2) password reminders and the site list > are both going away. *All* password reminders are going away? I'm kind of worried about that - I get enough emails from people who say "can you change my email address to [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: >Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> >> I'm not sure that treating a bounce of a password reminder as an >> immediate disable for bounce is a good idea. It is after all, just one >> bounce. If you don't disable members for bounce after one single post >> bounces, It pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >I'm having two problems with members of a list who are set to "no mail" > >but whose email address is no longer valid: > >- The bounce of the monthly password reminder, even though it is VERPed, > > is not sufficient to remove them from the list because

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: >I'm having two problems with members of a list who are set to "no mail" >but whose email address is no longer valid: >- The bounce of the monthly password reminder, even though it is VERPed, > is not sufficient to remove them from the list because it's only one > bounce. It

[Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Tomblin
I'm having two problems with members of a list who are set to "no mail" but whose email address is no longer valid: - The bounce of the monthly password reminder, even though it is VERPed, is not sufficient to remove them from the list because it's only one bounce. It would be nice if that bou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2001-06-20 Thread Dan Mick
> I am trying to list all users from a list that has the option nomail enabled. Does anybody knows how can i perform this task? Use this with bin/withlist: import sys import Mailman.mm_cfg def nomail(list): for member in list.members.keys(): try: if list.user_options[member

[Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2001-06-20 Thread Rodrigo Leme de Mello
Hi all members,   I am trying to list all users from a list that has the option nomail enabled. Does anybody knows how can i perform this task?   Thanks   Rodrigo