On 3/3/20 6:47 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
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> Can you share with me (us) the number and size, along with the industry
> or operations arena, of those people who are creating their own web UI.
I have no information about that.
> I honestly don't believe that there is that much
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:18 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/2/20 1:55 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > There are plenty of people who are still happy with pipermail and some
> > of the other search options (Google, htdig, etc) What benefit does a
> > REST api provide to church
On 3/2/20 1:55 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
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> There are plenty of people who are still happy with pipermail and some
> of the other search options (Google, htdig, etc) What benefit does a
> REST api provide to church groups, and tech lists like nanog or mailop?
It provides a
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 10:54 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/2/20 8:56 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
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> > Barry's roadmap
> > for Python2 -> Python3 seems to counter the narrative that MM2 is ill-
> > advised to be ported to Python3 (btw, that was posted in Jan of this
> > year).
>
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 10:53:19 -0500
Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> but I have vague recollections that both Barry and Mark have
> > said repeatedly that doing so would be substantially anything built on the
> > MM2
> > architecture.
assuming that's so I think the "anything built
On 3/2/20 8:56 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Barry's roadmap
> for Python2 -> Python3 seems to counter the narrative that MM2 is ill-
> advised to be ported to Python3 (btw, that was posted in Jan of this
> year).
The question is what do people want when they say they want
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:17 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes:
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> > Interestingly enough, here's a roadmap on exactly how to do it: :)
>
> Jim, you're not helping.
Stephen, thank you for taking the time to respond. Although I would
have preferred
Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes:
> Interestingly enough, here's a roadmap on exactly how to do it: :)
Jim, you're not helping. Until there are "I'll do it" hands up, no
port to Python 3 that is faithful to current Mailman 2 is viable.
Pushing it just serves to annoy those who are
On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 14:51 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2020, at 14:24, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
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> > Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal
> > Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be
> > a
> > lot of support for
Phil Stracchino writes:
> On 2020-02-28 05:44, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > str in Python 1, and the history of Mailman as an MLM for an American
> > rock band (who needs no steekin' accents, we just hammer and bend the
> > strings!)
>
> This is clearly a story I didn't know. :) And
On 2020-02-28 05:44, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Mailman has the opposite problem. We *wish* str was Unicode from the
> get-go, but it wasn't, and Mailman 2 is rife with potential encoded/
> decoded confusion because of the nature of email and the dual usage of
> str in Python 1, and the history
Phil Stracchino writes:
> Rewriting without breaking is hard.
True.
> There is a Python framework called Twisted.
Not an example appropriate to Mailman, though. The Twisted people were
doing amazing things with str, to which Unicode was irrelevant, because
their job was to shovel bytes from
On 2/27/20 2:08 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
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> What has this yielded?
>
> "Most of the most commonly used parts" of Twisted are now Python 3
> compatible.
I hear this how upgrading any django installation from one python-3
version to another python-3 version usually goes. I.e. long-term, at
On 2020-02-27 14:51, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2020, at 14:24, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
>> Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal
>> Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be
>> a
>> lot of support for that.
>
> I'm sure
On 27 Feb 2020, at 14:24, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal
Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be
a
lot of support for that.
I'm sure there would be widespread applause and congratulations
On 2/27/20 11:24 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
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> Who decides that there will be no more releases of MM2 from the GNU
> Mailman project?
I do. I am the release manager and the only one making releases so I get
to decide.
> I've got to be honest, Mailman 3 still looks unstable
On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 10:56 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> for Mailman 3, but that seems unduly kludgy. There won't be any change
> in Mailman 2.1 which is only waiting for i18n updates for the final
> 2.1.30 release which will be the last release from the GNU Mailman project.
Who decides that there
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