Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

On 08/19/2017 08:31 AM, Steve Wehr wrote: > > Some further info... I was including a link at the bottom of all emails sent > by mailman (in the msg_footer field: > "Click this link to unsubscribe: > %(user_optionsurl)s?password=%(user_password)s=1=1" > > I thought perhaps users were

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

t; Tunedin Web Design > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] > > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM > > To: Steve Wehr > > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed wi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

Is it possible that others sharing the same ISP could have been spam-marking and this has led to other subs on ISP getting removed? I had a spate of nyu.edu unsubs a while back that and that seemed to possibly be the case. I had to resub people using alt emails. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:55

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

Julian H. Stacey writes: > Some people are clueless thus forward without pruning. While I strongly agree with you that pruning is a great idea, and award bonus points to those who prune, I think "clueless" is unfair. Granted, "leaking" personalized links is a pretty serious issue and people

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

In article <7e0bd0e4-b837-4d76-3c14-a0b6dfda9...@tnetconsulting.net> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On 08/21/2017 02:08 PM, John Levine wrote: >> which defines a one-click opt-out link that uses POST rather than GET, >> since the URL malware fetchers all do GETs. > >Why do single click?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

On 08/21/2017 02:08 PM, John Levine wrote: There are plenty of anti-spam schemes that fetch all the URLs in a message to see whether they're malicious. That's why ESPs usually have a landing page with a confirm link, and why we wrote RFC 8058 which defines a one-click opt-out link that uses

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

In article <201708210145.v7l1io7x003...@fire.js.berklix.net> you write: >> Maybe this would foil ISPs who are automatically following this link to >> unsubscribe people. Do ISPs really do this? There are plenty of anti-spam schemes that fetch all the URLs in a message to see whether they're

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

"Steve Wehr" wrote: > That's the best theory I have heard so far to explain the facts. > > The user's in question, who are being unsubscribed without asking to be, are > people who like the mailing lists they are on, and would not be flagging > emails from the list as spam. Now their ISP might,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

__ > Steve Wehr > Tunedin Web Design > > -Original Message- > From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM > To: Steve Wehr > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

_ Steve Wehr Tunedin Web Design -Original Message- From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM To: Steve Wehr Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it. "Steve Wehr"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Steve Wehr wrote: subscribe:Aug 18 00:41:10 2017 (22583) saintsofswing: deleted dorrainescofi...@gmail.com; via the member options page Steve, if this was done via the web interface the first thing I would do is get the date/timestamp for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

"Steve Wehr" writes: > The problem is that when contacted, these users swear they DID NOT > unsubscribe themselves. So how can they be getting unsubscribed (with > messages in the logs like the one above) but they are not going to the > member options page and

[Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

I host about a hundred lists and from time to time the list owners keep telling me that users are being unsubscribed from the list without asking to be. Now I assume these users are just being removed for bouncing, but when I check the mailman log files in /var/log/mailman I see this:

[Mailman-Users] Users Being Unsubscribed

I run multiple lists using Mailman 2.1.8. Periodically some users receive a message asking them to confirm their unsubscribe from a given list. This happens despite the fact that they have taken no action to unsubscribe. It doesn't happen a lot, but enough that I know something is going on.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users Being Unsubscribed

David Andrews wrote: I run multiple lists using Mailman 2.1.8. Periodically some users receive a message asking them to confirm their unsubscribe from a given list. This happens despite the fact that they have taken no action to unsubscribe. It doesn't happen a lot, but enough that I know

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users Being Unsubscribed

David Andrews wrote: What is triggering the unsubscribe attempt? Dunno. What's in your logs? Is it spam that is doing it. That's possible, but unlikely. More likely is NDNs, notices to the effect of Your message has been delayed but is still