Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Odhiambo Washington writes: > Okay, so Exim and Postfix act the same in their default configs > unless one changes it. Mark (Dale), does your Postfix act the same > way? I think it doesn't and maybe it's something you need to take a > second look at?? Mark Dale's posts demonstrate knows his b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Dale writes: > Verizon began accepting mail again for lists on the European server > about 6 hours ago. Yay! And thank you for that followup. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/23/2016 11:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Okay, so Exim and Postfix act the same in their default configs unless one > changes it. Mark (Dale), does your Postfix act the same way? I think it > doesn't and maybe it's something you need to take a second look at?? Why do you think this? O

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Okay, so Exim and Postfix act the same in their default configs unless one changes it. Mark (Dale), does your Postfix act the same way? I think it doesn't and maybe it's something you need to take a second look at?? On 23 December 2016 at 22:17, Richard Shetron wrote: > Postfix is the same. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
That's what Exim does, unless the sysadmin changes things! On 23 December 2016 at 20:21, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/23/2016 06:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > I know Exim will only treat a session as a failure if it gets 5xx. Does > > Postfix do the same? > > > Yes, mostly. Postfix tre

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Richard Shetron
Postfix is the same. I had to install a greylisting package to add greylisting to postfix. On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On 23 December 2016 at 17:36, Richard Shetron mailto:gue...@sgeinc.com>> wrote: Maybe they were using some type of grey listing. For those who

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/23/2016 06:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I know Exim will only treat a session as a failure if it gets 5xx. Does > Postfix do the same? Yes, mostly. Postfix treats any 4xx as retryable and retries at configured intervals until the message is delivered or maximal_queue_lifetime (def

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On 23 December 2016 at 17:36, Richard Shetron wrote: > Maybe they were using some type of grey listing. > > For those who don't know: > Grey listing is where the target MTA rejects with a retry error code the > email from a new source for some period of time. Every site can set their > own delay

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-23 Thread Richard Shetron
Maybe they were using some type of grey listing. For those who don't know: Grey listing is where the target MTA rejects with a retry error code the email from a new source for some period of time. Every site can set their own delay. Most spammers won't retry so it gets rid of a lot of spam.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Dale
Thanks for the suggestion on the mailop list Jim. Verizon began accepting mail again for lists on the European server about 6 hours ago. No light was shed as to why or what changed their view. Not only Verizon but AT&T as well, at around the same time - a little puzzle that's probably best l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Dale writes: > We haven't brushed Odhiambo off, but rather have worked with him on this > problem trying to fix it. However, I'm sorry if I gave the impression that you did, everything Odhiambo wrote indicates that you have been very helpful, and I took that for granted. By support staff

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Mark Dale wrote: > Hi Odhiambo and Steve, > > I'm one of the co-owners of MailmanLists.net that is mentioned in this post. > > As Odhiambo said, we've recently moved one of the servers that hosted > Odhiambo's list. This involved a change of IP address, and at the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Mark Dale
Hi Odhiambo and Steve, I'm one of the co-owners of MailmanLists.net that is mentioned in this post. As Odhiambo said, we've recently moved one of the servers that hosted Odhiambo's list. This involved a change of IP address, and at the same time the problem with Verizon kicked into play. All

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 08:45:35PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > True. We then migrated the list to another of their servers that already > existed, but the rejections > became even more. I'd still do a gradual ramp-up to N recipients with the 'standard' type of messages/headers/patterns for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On 21 December 2016 at 20:09, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:11:16PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move > to > > another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of IP > > addresses

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread ddewey
Quoting Adam McGreggor (adam-mail...@amyl.org.uk): > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:11:16PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move to > > another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of IP > > addresses and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:11:16PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move to > another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of IP > addresses and this has not gone well for one of my mailing lists which has

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Just for the record, I have been hosting with mailmanlists.net for the last three or so years and I am very happy with them. The only problem is that one of their co-lo facilities in the US closed down and they had to move to another co-lo. This obviously involved migration of servers/ change of IP

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hi to East Africa I do not have any information about their "reputation" with Verizon and AT&T, but our organization uses digimouse.eu for mail, mailing lists and web. You may want to mention my name when contacting them (no, I do not get any compensation for my "advertising"). Christian --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Carpenter
  > -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- > bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of William Bagwell > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:59 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed > > On Sunday 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread William Bagwell
On Sunday 27 January 2013, Ed Kasky wrote: > I just did exactly what you are doing for the same reasons... > > I moved everything over to Asmallorange and so far I have been very happy. Long time ASO customer... They have a strict 1,000 emails per hour limit so a discussion list with 250 members

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread Ed Kasky
I just did exactly what you are doing for the same reasons... I moved everything over to Asmallorange and so far I have been very happy. http://asmallorange.com/ On 1/27/2013 12:43 AM, James Reid wrote: Hi Everyone, I've been running my own server hosting (amongst other things) mailman for t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Carpenter
> Hi Everyone, > > I've been running my own server hosting (amongst other things) mailman for > the last 10+ years using a combination of either my own server, or more > recently VPS. > > However, I've got to the point in my life where it is too much work to maintain > the servers myself, so am n

Re: [Mailman-Users] MAILMAN HOSTING pt 2

2004-04-20 Thread texas critter - mailman-users
Sean Carnahan wrote: > The lists are one for 5,000 and another of around 19,000 people? > > My present hosting company only allows 1,000 email per hour. For lists of these sizes, you're probably going to need to use a professional list host. If you google on "email list host" or similar phrases,

RE: [Mailman-Users] MAILMAN HOSTING pt 2

2004-04-20 Thread Sean Carnahan
I typically send out one newsletter 3 times avg a week. Peak Hour for email outs are around 12 AM central time or 2 AM central time or I can work around best times. Thanks for any assistance. sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Car

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting requirements

2003-03-05 Thread Jon Carnes
If all the lists are similar to yours then that setup would work fine. If the lists are going to be more like this one (with a lot of messages per day) then you should go with at least a 600Mhz box, and go for the 512Mb RAM so that you can run some Spam filtering on the box as well. Good Luck - J