[MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread David Morrison
I just got an e-mail from the list manager saying: "Your membership in the mailing list mailmate has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 27-Jan-2019. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will re

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread John K Masters
I had this also at my gmail address. Regards, John On 27 Jan 2019, at 12:00, David Morrison wrote: I just got an e-mail from the list manager saying: "Your membership in the mailing list mailmate has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 27-Jan-201

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread Arnau Rebassa
Hi all, I received exactly the same email and also my email address is from gmail. No idea why. -- Arnau > On 27 Jan 2019, at 13:00, David Morrison wrote: > > I just got an e-mail from the list manager saying: > > "Your membership in the mailing list mailmate has been disabled due to > ex

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 27 Jan 2019, at 13:15, Arnau Rebassa wrote: I received exactly the same email and also my email address is from gmail. No idea why. And apparently it doesn't happen after you re-subscribed? I haven't checked thoroughly, but it seems ~80 people with Gmail addresses were kicked off the lis

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread Arnau Rebassa
I have resubscribed and I have received some emails. I don’t know if I have missed any email but yesterday I received some emails. -- Arnau > On 27 Jan 2019, at 13:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > >> On 27 Jan 2019, at 13:15, Arnau Rebassa wrote: >> >> I received exactly the same email and a

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread Robert Brenstein
Such notifications are most often prompted by the sending host, that is the list host, suddenly deemed to be a spammer. Usually, it is a side-effect of some other user of that same service causing the IP (IP range) to be blacklisted. In this case, it might have been only Google thinking so, rig

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread Verdon Vaillancourt
Gmail is getting awful. I run a couple mail servers. I have root emails fwd’d to my gmail address. I only send a couple dozens log and notices emails each day. Gmail has started randomly bouncing them. I have used their so-called postmaster tools, registered and verified my domains, I have dmar

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-27 Thread Alexandru Nedelcu
A problem with the MailMate mailing list is that it sends the email on behalf of the user, which then makes the SPF / DKIM checks to fail. You can notice it by checking out the DMARC reports, if you have configured it. On Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 19:06, Robert Brenstein wrote: > Such notifications

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-28 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 27 Jan 2019, at 18:06, Robert Brenstein wrote: Such notifications are most often prompted by the sending host, that is the list host, suddenly deemed to be a spammer. This could be the problem, but I don't think this is the case. I use a third party service to monitor the reputation of my

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-28 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 28 Jan 2019, at 9:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: As a short term solution I've now disabled bounce processing on my mailing list software. This is mainly a problem for me and not my users. This won't change the fact that some emails (at least from 1 user) is not going to be received by a lot

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-28 Thread Alexandru Nedelcu
The issue seems to at least partly be caused by at least 1 user using the DMARC `reject` option. All users on email servers which respect this option (Gmail, iCloud, ...) are going to bounce emails from such a user. These bounces are going to add up on my server (there's a MailMan score system

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-28 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 28 Jan 2019, at 14:36, Alexandru Nedelcu wrote: > The issue seems to at least partly be caused by at least 1 user using the DMARC `reject` option. All users on email servers which respect this option (Gmail, iCloud, ...) are going to bounce emails from such a user. These bounces are going t

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 28 Jan 2019, at 3:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: [...] I'm now at the point where I would automatically become suspicious if anyone (any webpage) seems to claim to fully understand the consequences of any kind of setup/setting related to this :-) There are definitely some people (maybe doze

Re: [MlMt] Too many bounces?

2019-01-30 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 28 Jan 2019, at 19:09, Bill Cole wrote: On 28 Jan 2019, at 3:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: [...] I'm now at the point where I would automatically become suspicious if anyone (any webpage) seems to claim to fully understand the consequences of any kind of setup/setting related to this :-)