Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread John Levine
In article <0a0077825d87834e8e0008f0150350c54aa0f...@prodmbx02.pfsweb.com> you write: >> To be fair. If you use good password management (ie passwords only used in >> one place), then there is no practical difference between >forwarding all your mail to gmail and telling gmail the > POP3 password

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread Eric Henson
> To be fair. If you use good password management (ie passwords only used in > one place), then there is no practical difference between forwarding all your > mail to gmail and telling gmail the > POP3 password. Both situations let > Google see all your email, and nothing else. You're completel

Re: [mailop] problems sending to gmail

2017-02-10 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 04:20:40PM +, Wosotowsky, Adam wrote: > Assuming everything structural is working correctly as you indicated > below, the problem might be with your domain name. .cc is perhaps > the most abused TLD there is, so much so that google doesn't even > return search results i

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread Paul Smith
On 10/02/2017 21:22, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: There is no way for an end user to retrieve the password stored for access to remote pop/msa servers. Yes, giving us the password does increase the overall attack surface for the password. Given the general issues with password hijacking, t

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
There is no way for an end user to retrieve the password stored for access to remote pop/msa servers. Yes, giving us the password does increase the overall attack surface for the password. Given the general issues with password hijacking, the addition is fairly minor. If your service is small en

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2017-02-10 12:14:05 (+0100), Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Am Do den 9. Feb 2017 um 21:25 schrieb John Levine: > > >I never understand why users won't just collect mail from the 'proper' > > >mail server rather than having to forward it all to gmail/hotmail. A > > >large portion of our support issue

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:14:05PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > We teach people to not give their passwords away and now you want them > to give them to google? WTF? Emphatic agreement here. Not only does this instill worst practices in users, but in *many* places, it's variously (a) against the

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

2017-02-10 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Do den 9. Feb 2017 um 21:25 schrieb John Levine: > >I never understand why users won't just collect mail from the 'proper' > >mail server rather than having to forward it all to gmail/hotmail. A > >large portion of our support issues are to do