Hi Grant
> Why are messages, presumably from a human, outbound from RT/4 setting
> the Precedence: header to bulk?
I suppose to silence auto-responders to prevent them to play email
ping-pong. I know the good old 'vacation' tool does not reply on
presence of the bulk header. And also RT/4 itself
I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend
to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam
from them, and while they may still have a few good people there, it doesn't
seem to make a blind bit of difference overall.
Does anyone
Hello Anne,
I am still here at Marketo and am still running Marketo's deliverability
team, it seems like forever now! :) Our abuse team responds to just about
every email received to our abuse@ alias this is always the best way to
reach them. For those complaints that come from people we know an
On 5/28/19 10:57 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote:
I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend
to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam
from them, and while they may still have a few good people there, it doesn
So ... never, ever post one's email, "Online" ...
Does this include to an industry mailinglist, I wonder ... if membership is
unvetted?
Aloha,
Michael.
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On 2019-05-28 12:00 p.m., Michael Wise via mailop wrote:
"Unsolicited Email is defined as email sent to persons other than (i) persons
with whom Customer has an existing business relationship, OR
(ii) persons who have consented to the receipt of such email, including publishing
or providing the
> On May 28, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop
> wrote:
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> On 5/28/19 10:57 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote:
>> I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also
>> recommend to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything
>> other than
Marketo will shift to the Adobe AUP in June which is more explicit. I
share this detail because I think it is going to make conversations about
AUP enforcement a little easier for my team.
https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms/aup.html
Please continue to send any complaints to ab...@marketo.com, we'
In article <9079c83f-98a4-4cb0-8ff0-acd354cf4...@isipp.com> you write:
>I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend
>to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam
>from them, and while they may still have a few good people there,
On 5/28/19 12:37 PM, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote:
On May 28, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote:
Note that their stated policy is that it's OK to spam anyone whose email address has been
"published".
That is not what it says.
Technically correct, but the only "publishers" of
Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some
corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk
emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email
addresses. For your average person, probably not but it's not a hard 100%
rule as
On 5/28/19 12:58 PM, Kiersti Esparza via mailop wrote:
Marketo will shift to the Adobe AUP in June which is more explicit. I
share this detail because I think it is going to make conversations
about AUP enforcement a little easier for my team.
https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms/aup.html
A li
On 5/28/2019 4:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote:
Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and
some corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons
to be bulk emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published"
email addresses. For your ave
Yes, I'm not talking random person just adding those addresses in this case.
A prime real world example is an org updating state leaders on an issue.
There's sort of a relationship, relationship, it is constituent feedback,
it is bulk email. I'm sure some would call it spam but it is an example of
Or … someone using a known spamtrap address on a DMV email contact address, and
then that list being handed over to their apparent Member of Congress, who
proceeded to send constituent emails to it … on the grounds that of course it
was Opt-In (but not verified by a round-trip confirmation).
B
> On May 28, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop
> wrote:
>
> Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some
> corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk
> emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email a
Yup, believe that happens in California a lot. Signing up to vote too it
happens.
On Tue, May 28, 2019, 6:31 PM Michael Wise via mailop
wrote:
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>
> Or … someone using a known spamtrap address on a DMV email contact
> address, and then that list being handed over to their apparent Member of
> Co
> On May 28, 2019, at 11:35 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop
> wrote:
>
> Yup, believe that happens in California a lot. Signing up to vote too it
> happens.
But that's the opposite of the example you gave of "elected officials to be
contacted". One is mail being sent to someone who has publis
On 5/28/19 4:01 PM, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote:
/me wonders vaguely how much of the "Marketo spam" is coming from hostnames in
"mkt1572.com"
In my case, most of their spam originates from em-sj-77.mktomail.com and
potomac1050.mktomail.com, but occasionally it's more obfuscated.
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