Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-25 Thread Mark Foster via mailop
On 26/01/2020 1:46 PM, Ángel via mailop wrote: On 2020-01-24 at 11:16 -0800, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: Anyways, the main reason I assume is design and space limitations as well as the cognitive load of the UI. Only showing it when it may be important increases the chance that it's noticed

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-25 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <157565.913.73.ca...@16bits.net> you write: >The main offender here is probably Microsoft Outlook, which >a) Seem prevalent in the corporate world >b) Does not show the email address when reading the mail in the preview >panel (which is the more convenient way to read the inbox, imho

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-25 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-01-23 at 11:44 -0700, Raymond Burkholder via mailop wrote: > I went to log into Youtube, and Google says my device is unknown, and > wants to send a confirming text to a telephone number I no longer > have. > > The email confirmation methods all work, and validate my account. Yet > Googl

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

2020-01-25 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-01-24 at 11:16 -0800, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > Anyways, the main reason I assume is design and space limitations as > well as the cognitive load of the UI. > > Only showing it when it may be important increases the chance that > it's noticed and seen. > Of course, we aren't always

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-01-25 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-01-24 at 15:11 -0800, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > This was for a classroom, however, so there's a very clear mechanism > by which an out-of-band communication can occur to look into the spam > label and fix it... presumably also obvious by the fact that the > person knew it went to spa

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-01-25 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-01-24 at 11:29 -0800, Brandon Long wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 5:32 AM Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Dnia 24.01.2020 o godz. 12:44:56 M. Omer GOLGELI via mailop > pisze: > > Google usually displays why it thinks an email is spam when > an email marked as s

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-01-25 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-01-24 at 16:07 +0100, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > In this day and age, mailing lists have no excuse for not rewriting > the original envelope sender to one of their own (mailop does it > correctly). > Forwards between uncontrolled servers are also a very bad idea for > multiple reas

Re: [mailop] suddenly sendmail cannot make tls connections

2020-01-25 Thread John Covici via mailop
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 07:39:30 -0500, Johann Klasek via mailop wrote: > OK, that clarifies things, but since I have to connect with many servers and they are not all up to 1.2, I will keep things as they are for now. Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The questio

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-01-25 Thread Johann Klasek via mailop
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 03:11:58PM -0800, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:27 PM Gregory Heytings via mailop < > > > sender in addressbook is definitely a whitelisting signal, as is > > > replying to a message the user sent or on the same thread. They used to > > > be muc

Re: [mailop] suddenly sendmail cannot make tls connections

2020-01-25 Thread Johann Klasek via mailop
Hi John, fine that this is solved in some way. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 09:07:51PM -0500, John Covici via mailop wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:30:36 -0500, > John Covici via mailop wrote: [..] > > I first want to thank everyone who has been helping me on this > > problem. Well, I found somethin

Re: [mailop] suddenly sendmail cannot make tls connections

2020-01-25 Thread Stuart Henderson via mailop
On 2020/01/24 21:07, John Covici via mailop wrote: > So, I have now solved the problem (sort of). On my other box, I had > no trouble connecting to at least one of those servers and so I had to > figure out why. So, I looked at the /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf and compared > them on both systems and disc