[mailop] Are there any grown-ups at hotmail.com / outlook.com / microsoft.com?

2020-12-21 Thread Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen via mailop
It appears that since last time I had any contact with the powers that be behind Office365 (see https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2018/02/a-life-lesson-in-mishandling-smtp.html ) they appear to have abandoned any pretense at

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread Rob McEwen via mailop
On 12/21/2020 9:55 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: when antivax nonsense persuades people who would otherwise get vaccinated that they shouldn't, they or people they infect may die. The politest term I have for Sendgrid's actions here is deeply irresponsible. The moment "spam" gets away

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2020-12-21 22:15, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: On 12/21/20 18:55, John Levine via mailop wrote: The politest term I have for Sendgrid's actions here is deeply irresponsible. Agreed, but not solely because of the content of the message. It, like much of what comes from Sendgrid, is

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 12/21/20 18:55, John Levine via mailop wrote: Also, while the Skokie march was phenomenally offensive, at that time there was no issue of physical harm or injury from the march. But now, when antivax nonsense persuades people who would otherwise get vaccinated that they shouldn't, they or

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <6dd6bf78-40da-4b88-afff-2150598f0...@truenet.com> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Seriously, this is probably political… Not saying I agree, but unless it’s >spam, i.e. unwanted by your >recipients, then you just have a bunch of wack jobs as clients and keep it at >that. >If

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Seriously, this is probably political… Not saying I agree, but unless it’s spam, i.e. unwanted by your recipients, then you just have a bunch of wack jobs as clients and keep it at that. If it helps ease your conscience, think of it this way:

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 12/21/20 17:21, John Levine via mailop wrote: Now they're sending antivax spam from the pseudoscientific Weston A. Price foundation. As long as the checks don't bounce, I don't think Sendgrid really cares if the mail does. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880

[mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-21 Thread John Levine via mailop
Now they're sending antivax spam from the pseudoscientific Weston A. Price foundation. Spample here: http://spample.iecc.com/hjb/23655408 R's, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] GMail 550 5.1.1?

2020-12-21 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I was the TL of the second version of groups that added the improved web archive and mailing lists, and ensured that usenet was well supported at the time... and continued to maintain the incoming and posting servers until a couple years back. The groups usenet archive is still available as a web

Re: [mailop] [External] Anyone from BlueHost on this list?

2020-12-21 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 12/21/2020 1:56 PM, Eric Tykwinski via mailop wrote: Just a heads up: v=spf1 include:spf2.bluehost.com include:_spf.qualtrics.com include:_spf.google.com include:_spf.salesforce.com include:sparkpostmail.com include:spf.mailjet.com -all evaluating... Results - PermError SPF Permanent

[mailop] Anyone from BlueHost on this list?

2020-12-21 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Just a heads up: v=spf1 include:spf2.bluehost.com include:_spf.qualtrics.com include:_spf.google.com include:_spf.salesforce.com include:sparkpostmail.com include:spf.mailjet.com -all evaluating... Results - PermError SPF Permanent Error: Too many DNS lookups