Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Alex King via mailop
On 23/12/20 6:24 am, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:53 PM Rob McEwen via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: The moment "spam" gets away from "consent" and goes into "content" (specifically *legal* content) - there are enormous problems - because

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2020-12-22 Thread Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop
On 22/12/2020 20:39, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article <21e3c5bb-b8bd-460b-84d9-6419b5434...@one.com> you write: >>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 21.16, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/21/2020 1:56 PM, Eric Tykwinski via mailop wrote: Just a heads up: v=spf1 inc

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
On 2020-12-22 3:34 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article you write: >> The only basis on which these emails should be judged is on whether >> they're spam or malware. > This suggests you're OK with child pornography and beheading videos so > long as subscribers ask for them. And what abo

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2020-12-22 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <21e3c5bb-b8bd-460b-84d9-6419b5434...@one.com> you write: >> On 21 Dec 2020, at 21.16, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop >> wrote: >> >> On 12/21/2020 1:56 PM, Eric Tykwinski via mailop wrote: >>> Just a heads up: >>> >>> v=spf1 include:spf2.bluehost.com include:_spf.qualtrics.com >>> inc

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article you write: > >The only basis on which these emails should be judged is on whether >they're spam or malware. This suggests you're OK with child pornography and beheading videos so long as subscribers ask for them. And what about the Malware of the Day club? As someone else already said

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
The only basis on which these emails should be judged is on whether they're spam or malware. It is always within the purview of private companies to put whatever parameters they want around who they do business with. Sometimes the risk/reward incentives just aren't there. But being an internet in

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Mark Fletcher via mailop
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:53 PM Rob McEwen via mailop wrote: > > The moment "spam" gets away from "consent" and goes into "content" > (specifically *legal* content) - there are enormous problems - because > it then becomes one person's often very subjective opinion - against > another' subjective

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2020-12-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 12/22/2020 2:54 AM, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote: Is this still a valid limit? I’d like to hear your thoughts about it. IMO know. It hasn't been valid for years in the real-world.  See https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7182 for more background when the Apache SpamAssassin

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-22 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 22.12.2020 o godz. 00:39:47 Rob McEwen via mailop pisze: > and the same article FB was using (actually, a few different > articles did this) said that Remdesivir was our BEST med for > fighting COVID, yet the WHO recently recommended against use of > Remdesivir due to the WHO *now* claiming th

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2020-12-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On 12/22/20 2:54 AM, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote: Is this still a valid limit? I’d like to hear your thoughts about it. The limit was chosen for performance reasons, and for that it's still valid. SPF validates envelope information, so those lookups happen even if the message will ultima

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2020-12-22 Thread Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop
On 22/12/2020 07:54, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote: >> On 21 Dec 2020, at 21.16, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop >> mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: >> >> On 12/21/2020 1:56 PM, Eric Tykwinski via mailop wrote: >>> >>> Just a heads up: >>> >>> v=spf1 include:spf2.bluehost.com

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2020-12-22 Thread Sidsel Jensen via mailop
> On 21 Dec 2020, at 21.16, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop > wrote: > > On 12/21/2020 1:56 PM, Eric Tykwinski via mailop wrote: >> Just a heads up: >> >> v=spf1 include:spf2.bluehost.com include:_spf.qualtrics.com >> include:_spf.google.com include:_spf.salesforce.com >> include:sparkpostmail.co