Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-21 Thread Simon Arlott via mailop
On 21/07/2022 10:01, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2022, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > >> The basic problem is allowing an ESP customer to import a list that >> existed before the customer became a customer of this ESP. I can't >> think of an ESP that would not allow

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Many of the ESPs that we certify will require senders with certain types of > lists (size, industry, etc.) to reconfirm a percentage of their list upon > upload. And make no mistake, good ESPs scan uploaded lists for the same > things as do list-washi...er..."list hygiene" services. Anything

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-21 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > > The basic problem is allowing an ESP customer to import a list that > existed before the customer became a customer of this ESP. I can't > think of an ESP that would not allow that. Many of the ESPs that we certify will require sender

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-21 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: The basic problem is allowing an ESP customer to import a list that existed before the customer became a customer of this ESP. I can't think of an ESP that would not allow that. I saw this again as someone replied to it. Sadly, there is

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Sadly, there is at least one legitimate reasons to allow this: > how else could a customer change ESP ? There is that. But since the new ESP has no immediate way of knowing anything about the legitimacy of the uploaded list, the problem remains. -- Atro Tossavainen, Chairman of the Board Infin

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

2022-07-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 12:41:53PM -0600, Brie via mailop wrote: > So, hey, yeah, Sendgrid and Zoom... > > It's still going on even though it was 'being looked into'. It is. But I looked at the amount of .zoom.us stuff in all the SendGrid output in our traps from January to June and the trend is