Re: [mailop] Thread-Index header too long

2022-10-18 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 10/18/22 8:28 AM, WIlliam Fisher via mailop wrote: I'm pretty sure DKIM wouldn't include the non-standard threading headers. /Default/ DKIM configurations probably don't include the threading header(s) (References & In-Reply-To). But it's certainly possible that they are included. That

Re: [mailop] Thread-Index header too long

2022-10-18 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:43 PM Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > On 10/17/22 10:17 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > > Right, but you can't stick a non-compliant message into a DSN > > directly and have that be a compliant message... so you either make > > the non-compliant message compliant

[mailop] Tales from the Trenches, Observed activity by SpamAuditors

2022-10-18 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Strange last couple of days.. with renewed activity of old techniques. Keeping it to point form this time: * SendGrid still having problems, increased detection again (Love this spam, From: Department of Defence ) * IPXO got a new /16 in September, and already being leased to spammers Org

Re: [mailop] Bounce Address Tag Validation (BATV) versus Spam Filtering

2022-10-18 Thread Matthew Richardson via mailop
Thanks to Al for his (as usual!) useful thoughts. I was cheekily wondering whether the original authors of the BATV Internet Draft, John Levine, Dave Crocker and Tony Finch (I don't think Tony is subscribed to mailop), might have any views on the probity of its use in today's times. This question

Re: [mailop] Thread-Index header too long

2022-10-18 Thread WIlliam Fisher via mailop
I've seen these headers as well.  They were coming out of one particular "groups" mail system, likely added as an artifact of that process. The super long headers can also cause some clients to just not display the messages. I'm pretty sure DKIM wouldn't include the non-standard threading hea

Re: [mailop] Apple contact for strange email

2022-10-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
These hosts deliver newsletters and marketing content that Apple sends to email addresses that are Apple IDs. I will let the team in question know to fix their PTR for these hosts – thanks for the heads up --srs From: mailop on behalf of Alexander Huynh via mailop Date: Tuesday, 18 October