Re: [mailop] Help with block at Shaw.ca

2024-05-21 Thread Scott Undercofler via mailop
Christine: Ping me off list and I will get yer mail flowing. > On May 21, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Christine Borgia via mailop > wrote: > > Good question, Richard, I'm not sure! However, Kent, I sent to those emails > and received an immediate response. You're a rockstar! > > Chris > > On Tue,

Re: [mailop] [E] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
Hey Marcel - thanks for the reply: On 2024-05-21 3:42 PM, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: So it is looking like Yahoo is not accepting email forwards (at least from us) since Friday, May 17th. No, that's not the case. PH01 errors are suspected phish. It's very strange - the same

Re: [mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
It's beginning to sound localized to us, so thanks for all the replies. (I'm checking if our ops team have submitted a ticket via the URL Faisal mentioned, if not we will) We have three separate paths these messages could take: 1) standard email forwarding + SRS enabled - this is affected

Re: [mailop] [E] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:06 PM Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > So it is looking like Yahoo is not accepting email forwards (at least from > us) since Friday, May 17th. > No, that's not the case. PH01 errors are suspected phish. And as I suggested yesterday, please

Re: [mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Faisal Misle via mailop
Have you tried reaching out to them directly to get more details? I know they also lurk here, but pretty sure they prefer you contact their team first and then escalate if necessary. https://senders.yahooinc.com/contact/ On 5/21/24 8:01 PM, Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop wrote: Following on my

Re: [mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop said: >The only difference between messages that get through vs ones that are >rejected (same message) is whether we send to the Yahoo email box >directly, or else via an email forward (which has SRS enabled, and >optionally SPF and even minimal

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Help with block at Shaw.ca

2024-05-21 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:25 PM Richard W via mailop wrote: > Since Shaw is now owned by Rogers, would that be a Yahoo issue? > No. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am Tue, 21 May 2024 15:25:22 -0400 schrieb "Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop" : > we've tried it from domains with no SPF enabled (and no SRS) as well > as domains with SPF + SRS Do they have DMARC? ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Help with block at Shaw.ca

2024-05-21 Thread Christine Borgia via mailop
Good question, Richard, I'm not sure! However, Kent, I sent to those emails and received an immediate response. You're a rockstar! Chris On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 3:23 PM Richard W via mailop wrote: > Since Shaw is now owned by Rogers, would that be a Yahoo issue? > > Richard > > On 2024-05-21

Re: [mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Tue, 21 May 2024, Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop wrote: The only difference between messages that get through vs ones that are rejected (same message) is whether we send to the Yahoo email box directly, or else via an email forward (which has SRS enabled, and optionally SPF and even minimal

Re: [mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
yes I mispoke there (mis-typed) we've tried it from domains with no SPF enabled (and no SRS) as well as domains with SPF + SRS On 2024-05-21 3:23 PM, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2024, Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop wrote: The only difference between messages that get through vs

Re: [mailop] Help with block at Shaw.ca

2024-05-21 Thread Richard W via mailop
Since Shaw is now owned by Rogers, would that be a Yahoo issue? Richard On 2024-05-21 12:37 p.m., Christine Borgia via mailop wrote: Shaw.ca is completely blocking our transactional mail and we haven't been able to make contact there. Wondering if there is anyone here that I can talk to about

[mailop] Yahoo no longer accepting email forwards?

2024-05-21 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
Following on my email yesterday and after running a few more tests. The error message from Yahoo is simply Remote-MTA: dns; mta6.am0.yahoodns.net Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 Message not allowed [PH01] Email not accepted for policy reasons which links back to

[mailop] Help with block at Shaw.ca

2024-05-21 Thread Christine Borgia via mailop
Shaw.ca is completely blocking our transactional mail and we haven't been able to make contact there. Wondering if there is anyone here that I can talk to about it? Thx! Chris -- *Christine Borgia* Staff Deliverability Specialist [image: Shopify]

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread eBulldog Ops via mailop
It’s not unusual, selling into central government (UK & NL at least), to require TLS <1.2 to be disabled even on SMTP and, in my experience, this does mean a small (I’d suggest very small) number of remotes that are unable and "fallback" to clear. I personally find it a bit of a moot point;

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Benny Pedersen via mailop said: >Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop skrev den 2024-05-21 15:18: >> Yeah Benny – if you’re running 16 year old code and certificates >> that you’re still on TLS v1 or 1.1, it is time to upgrade, asap. >> What you have is not much better or worse than

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
They will not remove it to allow backwards compatibility. They did however move it to Security Level 0

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
I agree, but only to a point. Cryptographic protocols such as TLS 1.0/1.1 are still usable and strong against attackers with limited resources. The issue is that hardware is now a commodity that is only getting cheaper and more powerful. As such, it is now much easier to break the TLS1.0/1.1

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Serhii via mailop
False sense of security (well-known broken/insecure SSLv2/v3) is worse then plaintext usage. Anyway, you are arguing with Best Common Practice, which is not the best pastime. 2024-05-21T14:32:28Z Benny Pedersen via mailop : > still possible to enable sslv2, sslv3 on openssl -- Send

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop skrev den 2024-05-21 15:18: Yeah Benny – if you’re running 16 year old code and certificates that you’re still on TLS v1 or 1.1, it is time to upgrade, asap. What you have is not much better or worse than sending it en clair anyway. tls is self adaptive, so

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Serhii via mailop skrev den 2024-05-21 14:59: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8996/ yet its still possible to enable sslv2, sslv3 on openssl :) i dont think openssl will remove support for any tls versions yet ___ mailop mailing list

[mailop] Charter (RR) mit process?

2024-05-21 Thread John Possidente via mailop
It's been so long since I needed to mitigate with Charter/Spectrum/Roadrunner that I have no idea anymore what the process is. Does anyone here know? Thanks, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
Yeah Benny – if you’re running 16 year old code and certificates that you’re still on TLS v1 or 1.1, it is time to upgrade, asap. What you have is not much better or worse than sending it en clair anyway. From: mailop on behalf of Serhii via mailop Date: Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 6:39 PM To:

Re: [mailop] TLS inbound to comcast.net

2024-05-21 Thread Serhii via mailop
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8996/ This document formally deprecates Transport Layer Security (TLS) versions 1.0 (RFC 2246) and 1.1 (RFC 4346). Accordingly, those documents have been moved to Historic status. These versions lack support for current and recommended