Re: [mailop] Delisting for @icloud.com impossible for low volume senders?

2024-08-31 Thread Faisal Misle via mailop
You're not listed, so it's not a listing. A listing would cause a 550 bounce at the SMTP transaction with more details. What is happening is that something in the message is being fingerprinted. They use Proofpoint as their main filter, so it's likely their content scanners are not happy with.

[mailop] Delisting for @icloud.com impossible for low volume senders?

2024-08-31 Thread Max Emig via mailop
Hi all,   after years of operating this exact mailserver for personal use and some hobby projects here and there with https://hetzner.cloud/ on the IPv4 157.90.168.125, I noticed that everything from it still goes to spam with @icloud.com addresses. This e-mail service is not very popular with

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-31 Thread Serhii via mailop
On 8/31/24 18:44, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 08:16:22AM +0100, Matthew Richardson via mailop wrote: I also wish to keep accounts/credentials indefinately, and think I have concluded that this can be adequately achieved using TOTP as well as unique email address/pa

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-31 Thread Serhii via mailop
On 8/31/24 16:51, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Matthew Richardson via mailop said: TOTP is based on a shared secret which is (depending upon TOTP client) straightford to extract and retain securely for the long term. Does anyone see any flaw in this approach, or in the longevi

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-31 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 08:16:22AM +0100, Matthew Richardson via mailop wrote: > I also wish to keep accounts/credentials indefinately, and think I have > concluded that this can be adequately achieved using TOTP as well as unique > email address/password combinations for each account. > > TOTP i

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-31 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Matthew Richardson via mailop said: >TOTP is based on a shared secret which is (depending upon TOTP client) >straightford to extract and retain securely for the long term. > >Does anyone see any flaw in this approach, or in the longevity of TOTP? I think it's the best we can do th

Re: [mailop] Uptick in Google Groups spam?

2024-08-31 Thread Mark E. Mallett via mailop
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 08:54:27PM +0200, Ángel via mailop wrote: > On 2024-08-28 at 14:48 -0400, Mark E. Mallett via mailop wrote: > > PS: I was just looking at the archive hosted at googlegroups on a > > couple of them, and I notice that the "show original" item on the > > message reading dropdow

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-31 Thread Matthew Richardson via mailop
Viktor Dukhovni wrote:- >I care to keep my account indefinitely, and current second factors don't >in my view clearly possess demonstrate the requisite longevity. I also wish to keep accounts/credentials indefinately, and think I have concluded that this can be adequately achieved using TOTP as w