Dnia 17.03.2024 o godz. 16:17:10 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze:
> >My current ISP (BTW, one of the biggest cable providers in Europe, you can
> >probably guess which one it is) currently provides by default an IPv6 *only*
> >connection to the home users, even if you have IPv4-only devices in
Am 17.03.24 um 14:05 schrieb Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop:
Dnia 17.03.2024 o godz. 08:30:39 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze:
does IPv6 (not exclusively though), and I've been trying to usher in
the future by setting up at least dual stack on my home DSL
connection (that at least works now after
Dnia 17.03.2024 o godz. 08:30:39 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze:
> does IPv6 (not exclusively though), and I've been trying to usher in
> the future by setting up at least dual stack on my home DSL
> connection (that at least works now after years of IPv6 routing
> issues with my previous home
Am 17.03.24 um 04:23 schrieb Jarland Donnell via mailop:
I'm gonna be "that guy" though for a minute.
If there are any IPv6 only mail servers, they are hobbyists trying to prove a point. There are a ton of IPv4 only mail
servers. In short, there is no benefit to sending mail over IPv6 beyond th
I'm gonna be "that guy" though for a minute.
If there are any IPv6 only mail servers, they are hobbyists trying to
prove a point. There are a ton of IPv4 only mail servers. In short,
there is no benefit to sending mail over IPv6 beyond the ideological
preference some people have for feeling li
On 2024-03-14 at 20:26:00 UTC-0400 (Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:26:00 -0700)
Jay Hennigan via mailop
is rumored to have said:
On 3/14/24 15:18, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote:
OVH is sharing a /64 subnet among multiple customers since they
started their public cloud project. You are only provided wit
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 9:41 AM Alexandre Dangreau via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> > there are other providers in the same price range which assign /64.
>
> The VPS/PCI price start at 4€ per month. Not sure you will be able to find
> server with /64 IPv6 at this price.
>
One of your comp
On 3/15/2024 at 10:35, Chris Adams via mailop wrote:
Linode/Akamai has $5/month VMs that include a /64. So that's not a
good excuse either.
This. And Linode actually has an effective abuse desk.
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Once upon a time, Alexandre Dangreau said:
> Hello,
>
> > there are other providers in the same price range which assign /64.
>
> The VPS/PCI price start at 4€ per month. Not sure you will be able to find
> server with /64 IPv6 at this price.
Linode/Akamai has $5/month VMs that include a /64
Hello,
> there are other providers in the same price range which assign /64.
The VPS/PCI price start at 4€ per month. Not sure you will be able to find
server with /64 IPv6 at this price.
Due to this cheaper price, we had lots of spammers, and we put in place some
specific rules for these se
Once upon a time, Alexandre Dangreau said:
> In fact, if you need a /64 IPv6 range you probably use the wrong service. For
> VPS and Public Cloud instances (PCI) the IPv6 range is shared with all the
> VM, so each VM (VPS or PCI) have one single IPv4 (/32) and one single IPv6
> (/128).
>
> Onl
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 12:48:25AM +, Alexander Huynh via mailop wrote:
> Would you consider your own /64 or /48 from RIPE?
The Local Internet Registry (sponsoring ISP) will charge you
something (recurring) for managing the Provider Independent
allocation.
If the need is only for one mai
Hi,
As this is a hobby project of mine, and I am not willing to increase my
expenses significantly, I have re-configured both mailservers of mine to use
IPv4 addresses for outgoing mails, only. No big deal, and I can live with that.
there are other providers in the same price range which ass
John Levine via mailop wrote:
>
> It appears that Michael Grimm via mailop said:
>>> Sharing a /64 among multiple customers doesn't make sense. It's not like
>>> OVH is in danger of running out of IPv6 space any time soon.
>>
>> OVH is sharing a /64 subnet among multiple customers since they s
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 08:11:42AM +, Alexandre Dangreau via mailop wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In fact, if you need a /64 IPv6 range you probably use the wrong service. For
> VPS and Public Cloud instances (PCI) the IPv6 range is shared with all the
> VM, so each VM (VPS or PCI) have one single IP
Am 15.03.24 um 09:11 schrieb Alexandre Dangreau via mailop:
Hello,
In fact, if you need a /64 IPv6 range you probably use the wrong service. For
VPS and Public Cloud instances (PCI) the IPv6 range is shared with all the VM,
so each VM (VPS or PCI) have one single IPv4 (/32) and one single IPv6
Hello,
In fact, if you need a /64 IPv6 range you probably use the wrong service. For
VPS and Public Cloud instances (PCI) the IPv6 range is shared with all the VM,
so each VM (VPS or PCI) have one single IPv4 (/32) and one single IPv6 (/128).
Only baremetal have a dedicated /64 IPv6 range. The
It appears that Michael Grimm via mailop said:
>> Sharing a /64 among multiple customers doesn't make sense. It's not like OVH
>> is in danger of running out of IPv6 space any time soon.
>
>OVH is sharing a /64 subnet among multiple customers since they started their
>public cloud project. You a
Would you consider your own /64 or /48 from RIPE?
It's one way of being in control of your own reputation.
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On 3/14/24 13:21, Slavko via mailop wrote:
As the /64 is twice of whole IPv4 mask, plenty "spammers" with
minimal effort, just two/three kernel setting values...
A /64 is actually 4,294,967,296 times the whole IPv4 space, but who's
counting?
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Network Engineeri
On 3/14/24 15:18, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote:
OVH is sharing a /64 subnet among multiple customers since they started their
public cloud project. You are only provided with a single IPv6 address for your
instance. In the years before that, I had had access to an exclusive /64 subnet.
Thi
Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote:
> On 3/14/24 10:17, Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2024, at 16:53, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote:
>>> I am getting listed almost on a daily basis on two IPv6 addresses of mine
>>> which happen to be part of OVH's address space (yes, I know).
>> …you
On 3/14/24 10:17, Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote:
On 14 Mar 2024, at 16:53, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote:
I am getting listed almost on a daily basis on two IPv6 addresses of mine which
happen to be part of OVH's address space (yes, I know).
…you do. So to:
Is there a way to make that de
It appears that Slavko via mailop said:
>Dňa 14. marca 2024 19:15:14 UTC používateľ John Levine via mailop
> napísal:
>
>>It would not be hard to use a different address for every message.
>
>More precise, one can get/use new temporary IPv6 address every
>5 s (less is ignored on Linux), but IMO
Dňa 14. marca 2024 19:15:14 UTC používateľ John Levine via mailop
napísal:
>It would not be hard to use a different address for every message.
More precise, one can get/use new temporary IPv6 address every
5 s (less is ignored on Linux), but IMO with custom kernel even more
often can be possib
According to Graeme Fowler via mailop :
>As you can see, it’s the entire /64 getting listed in both cases. They’re
>unsavoury neighbourhoods by the look of things.
If you are running a mail server on IPv6, you really do not want to share the
/64 with anyone else.
Everyone I know who does IPv6 ad
Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote:
> On 14 Mar 2024, at 16:53, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote:
>> I am getting listed almost on a daily basis on two IPv6 addresses of mine
>> which happen to be part of OVH's address space (yes, I know).
>
> …you do. So to:
>
>> Is there a way to make that de-lis
On 14 Mar 2024, at 16:53, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote:
> I am getting listed almost on a daily basis on two IPv6 addresses of mine
> which happen to be part of OVH's address space (yes, I know).
…you do. So to:
> Is there a way to make that de-listing more persistent?
Yes. The following tex
Hi,
is there someone from Spamhaus reading this list?
I am getting listed almost on a daily basis on two IPv6 addresses of mine which
happen to be part of OVH's address space (yes, I know). Both of my mailservers
are serving a handful users, only (family).
Whenever that happens I am using Spam
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