[mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

Thank you to everyone that provided ideas on how I should deal with aol, yahoo and such with my listserv. I've modified my software to do some header munging and I'll see how that works. I'm still confused though on how I'm supposed to deal with SCOMP messages from AOL. Since I'm on and ne

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rocessed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Mulligan Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:11 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages Thank you to everyone that provided ideas on h

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On 2/13/15 14:11, Geoff Mulligan wrote: > Thank you to everyone that provided ideas on how I should deal with aol, > yahoo and such with my listserv. > > I've modified my software to do some header munging and I'll see how > that works. > > I'm still confused though on how I'm supposed to deal wi

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On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 02:39:36PM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote: > On 2/13/15 14:11, Geoff Mulligan wrote: > > Thank you to everyone that provided ideas on how I should deal with aol, > > yahoo and such with my listserv. > > > > I've modified my software to do some header munging and I'll see how > >

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

On Feb 13, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Mike A wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 02:39:36PM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote: >> On 2/13/15 14:11, Geoff Mulligan wrote: >>> Thank you to everyone that provided ideas on how I should deal with aol, >>> yahoo and such with my listserv. >>> >>> I've modified my softwa

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

There might be some of that. However, I have seen conversations. (Nested RE:'s) come back in our feedback loop. And I have thought MANY times that some of these people simple use the "Report as spam" vs "delete". Maybe it removes them faster? I have never used AOL but maybe they need to work o

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

Great story, we did email for a local school district. Little Johnny would come home from school and check email first so that he could mark his teacher's disciplinary messages as spam before Mom and Dad and came home. We would just forward off the reports to the Sys Admin to deal with, the a

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

I have been told but have not verified that if the AOL user leaves the email in spam box and then empties the spam box without moving good email into the normal inbox, then all email in the spam box is thus treated as SPAM and reported as such. This actually explains those situation where we

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

On 2015-02-13 15:26, Franck Martin wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Mike A > wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 02:39:36PM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote: On 2/13/15 14:11, Geoff Mulligan wrote: Thank you to everyone that provided ideas on how I should deal with aol, y

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

On the other hand, when I've had actual compromised accounts that start spamming, AOL's SCOMPs have always been the first external report, so I actually find them quite useful. Only once did they notice a problem before I did (or my systems) found and plugged the hole, but still, it's nice to

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

ailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages On 2015-02-13 15:26, Franck Martin wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Mike A mailto:mi...@mikea.ath.cx>> wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 02:39:36PM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote: On 2/13/15 14:11, Geoff Mulligan wrote: Thank you to everyone t

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

This is were I wish there was some standardization of bounce messages. If email server operators could receive reports of X number of bounces reliably it may cut down on the number of compromised accounts considerably, by scripting some sort of shutdown of the account. At the current state it

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

> 2) emphasize how easy it is to unsubscribe, also at the TOP of the email. I agree that people who sign up for a mailing list should unsubscribe when they change their mind, but there are a lot of senders who add people to lists without asking or even mentioning that the list exists. > 1) e

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ecimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 4:58 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Cc: Hal Murray Subject: Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages > 2) e

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al Murray Sent: 2015-02-13 - 16:57 To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages > >> 2) emphasize how easy it is to unsubscribe, also at the TOP of the email. > > I agree that people who sign up for a mailing list should unsubscribe when > they change thei

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Be prepared for a reality where nearly all of the SCOMP reports you will ever get are false positives generated by careless, ignorant, clueless AOL users. I've had a feedback loop there since March 2004, and easily, *easily*, well over 99% of the reports I've ever gotten were from people on maili

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> On Feb 13, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Michael Wise wrote: > > Two things I would recommend most highly, not just for AOL recipients but > others as well. > > 1) emphasize the desirability of adding the mailing list address to Safe > Senders, preferably at the top of the email. > 2) emphasize how eas

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> On Feb 14, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > Be prepared for a reality where nearly all of the SCOMP reports you > will ever get are false positives generated by careless, ignorant, > clueless AOL users. We have customers who have end users who *pay* to receive their mailings, and s