Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-30 Thread Scott Undercofler via mailop
Politicians may have exempted themselves but report as spam says otherwise. We are in a constant battle with local and state elected officials both as customers and senders who refuse to even try to follow best sending practices. And I’ve personally had rather self important officials tell me ho

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-30 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/28/19 13:21, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote: Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email addresses. For your average

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-29 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Tue, 28 May 2019 11:57:01 -0600, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop" wrote: >I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend >to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than >spam from them, and while they may still have a few good pe

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-29 Thread Mark Foster via mailop
> > So ... never, ever post one's email, "Online" ... > Does this include to an industry mailinglist, I wonder ... if membership > is unvetted? > Obviously this is only relevant to my jurisdiction (New Zealand) but when we created the Unsolicited Electronic Messaging Act we created different defi

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/28/19 4:01 PM, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote: /me wonders vaguely how much of the "Marketo spam" is coming from hostnames in "mkt1572.com" In my case, most of their spam originates from em-sj-77.mktomail.com and potomac1050.mktomail.com, but occasionally it's more obfuscated. -- Jay H

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Atkins via mailop
; Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis > > "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." > > Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? > > > > From: mailop On Behalf Of Rob McEwen via mailop > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:05 PM > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: Re: [m

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Brett Schenker via mailop
> mailop > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:05 PM > *To:* mailop@mailop.org > *Subject:* Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received > non-spam from them? > > > > On 5/28/2019 4:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote: > > Two real world examples would be

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Atkins via mailop
> On May 28, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop > wrote: > > Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some > corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk > emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email a

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
op Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:05 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them? On 5/28/2019 4:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote: Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some corporations

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Brett Schenker via mailop
Yes, I'm not talking random person just adding those addresses in this case. A prime real world example is an org updating state leaders on an issue. There's sort of a relationship, relationship, it is constituent feedback, it is bulk email. I'm sure some would call it spam but it is an example of

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Rob McEwen via mailop
On 5/28/2019 4:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote: Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email addresses. For your ave

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/28/19 12:58 PM, Kiersti Esparza via mailop wrote: Marketo will shift to the Adobe AUP in June which is more explicit.  I share this detail because I think it is going to make conversations about AUP enforcement a little easier for my team. https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms/aup.html A li

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Brett Schenker via mailop
Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email addresses. For your average person, probably not but it's not a hard 100% rule as

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/28/19 12:37 PM, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote: On May 28, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: Note that their stated policy is that it's OK to spam anyone whose email address has been "published". That is not what it says. Technically correct, but the only "publishers" of

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <9079c83f-98a4-4cb0-8ff0-acd354cf4...@isipp.com> you write: >I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend >to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam >from them, and while they may still have a few good people there,

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Kiersti Esparza via mailop
Marketo will shift to the Adobe AUP in June which is more explicit. I share this detail because I think it is going to make conversations about AUP enforcement a little easier for my team. https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms/aup.html Please continue to send any complaints to ab...@marketo.com, we'

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Atkins via mailop
> On May 28, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop > wrote: > > On 5/28/19 10:57 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote: >> I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also >> recommend to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything >> other than

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
On 2019-05-28 12:00 p.m., Michael Wise via mailop wrote: "Unsolicited Email is defined as email sent to persons other than (i) persons with whom Customer has an existing business relationship, OR (ii) persons who have consented to the receipt of such email, including publishing or providing the

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan via mailop Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:47 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them? On 5/28/19 10:57 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/28/19 10:57 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote: I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam from them, and while they may still have a few good people there, it doesn

Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Kiersti Esparza via mailop
Hello Anne, I am still here at Marketo and am still running Marketo's deliverability team, it seems like forever now! :) Our abuse team responds to just about every email received to our abuse@ alias this is always the best way to reach them. For those complaints that come from people we know an

[mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

2019-05-28 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop
I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam from them, and while they may still have a few good people there, it doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference overall. Does anyone