Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-21 Thread Dale Langley via mailop
Hi folks, We've seen similar patterns with Microsoft, in many cases Gmail open rates outperform MS which in my experience is unusual. However, when we've dug deeper into these 'false green' cases it tends to be SRD causing most of the issues. Persuading clients to tighten up on engagement crite

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-21 Thread Annalivia Ford
m.com From: Benjamin BILLON via mailop To: "mailop@mailop.org" Date: 18/08/2017 02:42 Subject: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable? Sent by:"mailop" Hello folks, I've seen recent cases where open rates of Hotmail'

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-18 Thread Stefano Bagnara
I've heard many senders with similar issues to Microsoft in the last months, so I'm convinced there is a change on microsoft side. I saw shared IPs with no changes in senders drop from 25% (unique) open rates of the last May to 15% since June. (FYI: Gmail opens for the same IPs are in the 30-35% a

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-18 Thread Benjamin BILLON via mailop
Thanks for the replies, @Michael> I've seen such behavior on 5.63.28.29 or 5.63.27.210 for instance (two distinct cases). We already opened a ticket for one of these when traffic was deferred but I'll follow your suggestion and open a new one for this specific question! > They mean nothing. WELL.

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-17 Thread Laura Atkins
> On Aug 17, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Benjamin BILLON via mailop > wrote: > > Hello folks, > > I've seen recent cases where open rates of Hotmail's recipients are clearly > lower than for other ISPs (like, less than half the rate of Gmail, Yahoo, > etc.). > Manual tests and seeded addresses show m

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-17 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
[mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin BILLON via mailop Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:37 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable? Hello folks, I've seen recent cases where open rates of Hotmail's recipients are clearly lower than for ot

[mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

2017-08-17 Thread Benjamin BILLON via mailop
Hello folks, I've seen recent cases where open rates of Hotmail's recipients are clearly lower than for other ISPs (like, less than half the rate of Gmail, Yahoo, etc.). Manual tests and seeded addresses show mixed results, with both inbox and junk folder. What's weird is that I can see a bright