Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-13 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
t; ? -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Carl Byington Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:14 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 22:22 +0

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-13 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 22:22 +, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > It's being ... investigated. 4 days later - still probing an account here every 3 seconds. 40.97.0.0/16 is currently firewalled. In the last month I have not seen any actual mail de

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >To me that this smells of mis-using SMTP as an authentication backend. Badly. No, it's probably some bug that makes it think that it has a message to send but it fails and keeps retrying. Once upon a time, I though it would be fun to have a content farm, so I set one up w

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Cole
On 9 Feb 2018, at 18:49 (-0500), Carl Byington wrote: > On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:56 -0700, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: >> For those seeing this, is it hitting the same account more than once, >> or just once per account? > > 3 or 4 AUTH attempts per second over port 25 for the same account. 50K+

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:56 -0700, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: > For those seeing this, is it hitting the same account more than once, > or just once per account? 3 or 4 AUTH attempts per second over port 25 for the same account. 50K+ attempts ove

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
ails.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Scott Undercofler Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 2:15 PM To: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs Its hitting a set of accounts over and over

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Scott Undercofler
Its hitting a set of accounts over and over and over at least on my “older” system. On the newer system, Im blocking them for too many connections today so its hard to tell. Strangely enough the MS contacts on this list haven’t chimed in…. > On Feb 9, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Dave Warren via mailop

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Warren via mailop
On 2018-02-09 14:20, John Levine wrote: In article you write: I'm confused, the first post said valid credentials, is that what everyone else is seeing? Nearly all valid creds seems weirder than mostly invalid... modulo whatever amount of hijacked or reused creds there are. Remember that Ou

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >I'm confused, the first post said valid credentials, is that what everyone >else is seeing? > >Nearly all valid creds seems weirder than mostly invalid... modulo whatever >amount of hijacked or reused creds there are. Remember that Outlook does account consolidation like G

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Michael Peddemors
Sorry for the noise... Also from EHLO's of Feb 9 09:29:13 fe1 msd[20338]: EHLO command received, args: MWHPR22MB0798.namprd22.prod.outlook.com On 18-02-09 11:23 AM, Michael Peddemors wrote: Two separate issues I believe... Aggressive Valid AUTH attempts... EHLO/STARTTLS/AUTH LOGIN/QUIT A

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Michael Peddemors
Two separate issues I believe... Aggressive Valid AUTH attempts... EHLO/STARTTLS/AUTH LOGIN/QUIT All from MWHPR01MB2336.prod.exchangelabs.com Feb 9 10:06:09 fe1 msd[4699]: AUTH success: [] (40.97.117.181) Feb 9 10:06:10 fe1 msd[4709]: AUTH success: [] (40.97.117.181) Feb 9 10:06:11 fe1 ms

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I'm confused, the first post said valid credentials, is that what everyone else is seeing? Nearly all valid creds seems weirder than mostly invalid... modulo whatever amount of hijacked or reused creds there are. Brandon On Fri, Feb 9, 2018, 10:59 AM Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 09:56:43AM +0100, Dan Malm wrote: > I'm seeing an extreme amount of SMTP authentications (over 600/s) [snip] I wouldn't characterize what I've seen as "extreme" at any of the observation points I'm monitoring, but I have seen a moderate number of repeated attempts to authen

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread rps462
, at 8:59 AM, Brotman, Alexander < >>>> alexander_brot...@comcast.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if I'd call it extreme, but a marked increase beginning Feb >>>> 6th. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alex Brotman >

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Michael Peddemors
crease beginning Feb 6th. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse Comcast -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Dan Malm Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:57 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microso

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Michael Peddemors
if I'd call it extreme, but a marked increase beginning Feb 6th. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse Comcast -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Dan Malm Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:57 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Ext

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Scott Undercofler
February 9, 2018 8:00 AM > To: Dan Malm ; mailop@mailop.org > Subject: Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs > > Not sure if I'd call it extreme, but a marked increase beginning Feb 6th. > > -- > Alex Brotman > Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread d
riday, February 09, 2018 3:57 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs Hi I'm seeing an extreme amount of SMTP authentications (over 600/s) from the microsoft owned 40.101.0.0/16 range on my customer SMTP servers. It's just a

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Scott Undercofler
...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Dan Malm > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:57 AM > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs > > Hi > > I'm seeing an extreme amount of SMTP authentications (over 600/s) from the >

Re: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Brotman, Alexander
bject: [mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs Hi I'm seeing an extreme amount of SMTP authentications (over 600/s) from the microsoft owned 40.101.0.0/16 range on my customer SMTP servers. It's just auth, with valid credentials, and then it disconnects right after

[mailop] Extreme amounts of SMTP auth from microsoft/outlook IPs

2018-02-09 Thread Dan Malm
Hi I'm seeing an extreme amount of SMTP authentications (over 600/s) from the microsoft owned 40.101.0.0/16 range on my customer SMTP servers. It's just auth, with valid credentials, and then it disconnects right after so no attempts to send any mails have been done for the vast majority of these