Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 7.12.2022 o godz. 10:30:44 Jay Hennigan via mailop pisze: > On 12/7/22 05:13, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > >Regular mailing lists, where you purposely subscribe by yourself, and > >marketing mass-mailing, where you are usually subscribed "by the way", eg. > >when registering on some w

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 12/7/22 05:13, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Regular mailing lists, where you purposely subscribe by yourself, and marketing mass-mailing, where you are usually subscribed "by the way", eg. when registering on some website, are two quite different things. Regular mailing lists, where you

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Lukas Tribus via mailop
FYI I was contacted privately by a marketo employee and provided the full headers/email to him for further analysis. Thanks! Lukas On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 16:46, Chris Huff wrote: > > Came here to say what Matt - who as far as I can tell is always right - has > said: please send anything relate

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 12/7/22 6:46 AM, Matt Vernhout via mailop wrote: CAN-SPAM, CASL and several other Anti-Spam/Digital Marketing laws require that the recipient only need to supply their email addresses to unsubscribe. It may also be a requirement of their ESP, send a note to the abuse desk for 1 unsolicited e

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Chris Huff via mailop
Came here to say what Matt - who as far as I can tell is always right - has said: please send anything related to email compliance at Marketo to ab...@marketo.com and we'll handle it with our customer. On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 7:58 AM Matt Vernhout via mailop wrote: > CAN-SPAM, CASL and several ot

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Matt Vernhout via mailop
CAN-SPAM, CASL and several other Anti-Spam/Digital Marketing laws require that the recipient only need to supply their email addresses to unsubscribe. It may also be a requirement of their ESP, send a note to the abuse desk for 1 unsolicited emails, 2 possible violations of local or relevant legisl

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 7.12.2022 o godz. 12:06:03 Andrew C Aitchison via mailop pisze: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > >Obviously it is done this way only to discourage people from unsubscribing. > >They know the address they sent mail to, so they could easily generate a > >personalized u

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Obviously it is done this way only to discourage people from unsubscribing. They know the address they sent mail to, so they could easily generate a personalized unsubscribe link that is connected with this particular address and allows to unsu

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 7.12.2022 o godz. 10:54:20 Stuart Henderson via mailop pisze: > On 2022/12/06 16:43, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > > > > People who 'gather' or require information on the opt-out pages, even if it > > is just the email address (you already sent to our email address) > > And this is

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-07 Thread Stuart Henderson via mailop
On 2022/12/06 16:43, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > > People who 'gather' or require information on the opt-out pages, even if it > is just the email address (you already sent to our email address) And this is made worse because there are plenty of cases where the recipient won't know the

Re: [mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-06 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
On 2022-12-06 07:27, Lukas Tribus via mailop wrote: Hey folks, The URL in question is from an unsubscribe link in an opt-out-only unsolicited marketing email from IBM (no business has ever been conducted with IBM from this) through marketo.com (leopard.mktdns.com, return-path/dkim signed mktoma

[mailop] IBM: [to unsubscribe] please enter your first, last name, email and country

2022-12-06 Thread Lukas Tribus via mailop
Hey folks, The URL in question is from an unsubscribe link in an opt-out-only unsolicited marketing email from IBM (no business has ever been conducted with IBM from this) through marketo.com (leopard.mktdns.com, return-path/dkim signed mktomail.com): https://web.archive.org/web/20221206150930/h