Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-28 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:19 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop wrote: > > * Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop [2024-03-25 15:58-0700] > >We are planning to move the system that hosts our email > >discussion lists from its old home where it has been for > >decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-27 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop
* Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop [2024-03-25 15:58-0700] >We are planning to move the system that hosts our email >discussion lists from its old home where it has been for >decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k deliveries >per day, most of which go to gmail or google-hosted email >

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
While I agree with your points Laura (and generally anything you have to say), I felt this right here warranted a secondary point worth making public to the mailing list: It’s more necessary - you need to warm up both your IP and your domain AND the combination of IP and domain addresses. It

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:40 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop wrote: > > * Laura Atkins via mailop [2024-03-26 09:21+] > >> On 25 Mar 2024, at 22:58, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop > >> wrote: > >> > >> We are planning to move the system that hosts our email > >> discussion lists from its old ho

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop
* Mark Fletcher [2024-03-25 20:38-0700] On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop
* Laura Atkins via mailop [2024-03-26 09:21+] On 25 Mar 2024, at 22:58, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop wrote: We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k deliveries pe

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
+1 to what Laura says. I run a couple of EC2-hosted mail servers but I smarthost their mail out through another server, because, if you can get Amazon to unblock port 25 for you, people are still probably going to reject your mail far and wide. The EC2 IP ranges are likely to be treated unkin

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Niels Dettenbach via mailop
Am Dienstag, 26. März 2024, 10:21:23 CET schrieb Laura Atkins via mailop: > Don’t use EC2 for mail. Use SES. yes, but by my experience, AWS today has a overall poor reputation within the internet email sphere. just my .02$ niels. -- --- Niels Dettenbach Syndicat IT & Internet https://www.

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 25 Mar 2024, at 22:58, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop > wrote: > > We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from > its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does > about 15k deliveries per day, most of which go to gmail or goog

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:58:33 -0700, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop wrote: >Is it still necessary to warm up new IP addresses gradually >instead of going directly to this volume of deliveries? My >impression is that it's less and less necessary in the age of >DMARC, SPF and DKIM. The rule that go

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-25 Thread Mark Fletcher via mailop
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > We are planning to move the system that hosts our email > discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades > to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k deliveries per day, > most of which go

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Your biggest threat is hosting on AWS.. Given the nature of EC2, you want to ensure that the IPs you are using are not in the midst of some abusive IPs, and AWS is still not providing public 'rwhois' delegation to our knowledge. Make sure that you have a correct PTR record of course, the gene

[mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-25 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop
We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k deliveries per day, most of which go to gmail or google-hosted email systems. Is it still necessary to warm up new IP addresses