Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-18 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Tue 18/Jan/2022 00:47:53 +0100 Scott Mutter via mailop wrote: I feel like the abuse contact that's being suggested in RDAP, RP, rWhois, etc - are all intended to be manually sent by a human, i.e. someone from one of these big name email service providers (Microsoft/Yahoo/Gmail). It is much

Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-18 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Tue 18/Jan/2022 00:34:51 +0100 Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: On 1/17/22 4:08 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: See my previous message about RDAP.  If people want to publish contact info for their IP ranges, they can do it now in the RIR WHOIS. The problem is that they don't want to. In t

Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-17 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2022-01-17 at 18:08:15 UTC-0500 (17 Jan 2022 18:08:15 -0500) John Levine via mailop is rumored to have said: Dunno about you, but where I am, if an IP does not have matching forward and reverse DNS, that is a very strong signal that it's not supposed to be hosting a server and you don't wan

Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-17 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 1/17/22 4:47 PM, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote: Additionally, are all of these big name email service providers going to automatically send feedback to these abuse contacts for every single message that their users flag as spam or that their systems flags as spam? I suspect that the percent

Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-17 Thread Scott Mutter via mailop
We've really taken the original topic off course. But I feel that we may be taking the secondary topic off course as well. All the talk about abuse contacts in RDAP or RP DNS - I'm not saying that these have merits... BUT... Is Microsoft/Yahoo/Gmail/*insert whatever big name email service* sendin

Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-17 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 1/17/22 4:08 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: See my previous message about RDAP. If people want to publish contact info for their IP ranges, they can do it now in the RIR WHOIS. The problem is that they don't want to. In theory, maybe. However in my experience, many small operators who

Re: [mailop] still not a good way to publish contact info, was What am I supposed to do

2022-01-17 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Grant Taylor via mailop said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On 1/17/22 11:49 AM, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote: >> Do reverse DNS entries support the TXT structure? > >I can't remember the last time I used it to say with any certainty. But >would completely expect that it would.