Re: VIRGIL: nemo Hercule, nemo

1998-04-28 Thread James Butrica
I came across this phrase out of context; the only identification given is that it's supposedly a quotation from Persius. Can anyone help me put this phrase into context? Thanks, Randi Eldevik Oklahoma State University ---

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil

1998-04-28 Thread Minna Canton Duchovnay
You don't say whether you are a high school student or college student and what your course requirements are. Do you have time to read Homer's ILIAD and ODYSSEY and Vergil's AENEID? That would be the best way to go and think about the similiarities. Another thing you could do is look up the

Re: VIRGIL: spelling: Virgil or Vergil?

1998-04-28 Thread Laura
Brescia, Italy 28.4.98 Here in Italy in high school education is prefered the Scholastic pronunciation (Cicero), in Univeristy it depends on the professor. I had 4 differents latin professor when I did University and three of them used the scholastic pronunciations, while the fourth loved and

VIRGIL: Context of A snake lurks in the grass

1998-04-28 Thread Dave McLean/Justine Viets-McLean
Hello, I am interested in finding out the context and intended meaning of Virgil's quote: A snake lurks in the grass. So far, I have been provided with the source: Eclogues 3.93: Frigidus, o pueri (fugite hinc!), latet anguis in herba (A cold snake lurks in the grass, boys: fly hence). Can anyone

Re: VIRGIL: Context of A snake lurks in the grass

1998-04-28 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
In book one of the _Aeneid_, there is a simile describing the Greek attacker Pyrrhus which compares Pyrrhus to a snake _mala gramina pastus_ (a snake which has fed on evil grasses). Hope this helps, Randi Eldevik On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Dave McLean/Justine Viets-McLean wrote: Hello, I am

Re: VIRGIL: nemo Hercule, nemo

1998-04-28 Thread Thomas Coens
The phrase _is_ from Persius: SATVRA I O curas hominum! o quantum est in rebus inane! 'quis leget haec?' min tu istud ais? nemo hercule. 'nemo?' uel duo uel nemo. 'turpe et miserabile.' quare? On Tue, 28 Apr 1998,

Re: VIRGIL: Line from Aeneid

1998-04-28 Thread James Baron
At 15:30 98/04/28 -0400, you wrote: There is a line from the work where Aeneas says Someday we will look back on these days of tribulation, and we will laugh, or something to that effect. I would like to find out the book and line number of this quote. (I had thought that it was Book III, but

Re: VIRGIL: nemo Hercule, nemo

1998-04-28 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
Okay, I guess I'll have to go into more detail. The source of the alleged Persius quotation is the _Poetria_ of Magister Mathias Lincopensis (Mathias of Linkoeping), the 14th-century Swedish theologian. He introduces the quotation by saying Alii gravantur in fine, ut in responsionibus, ut in

Re: VIRGIL: Context of A snake lurks in the grass

1998-04-28 Thread parcob
I can't tell you much about where it comes from, but it is a fairly popular quote in the middle ages - it is even turns up in der wilde Alexander! Helen Conrad-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT

Re: VIRGIL: nemo Hercule, nemo

1998-04-28 Thread parcob
Randi, I have a funny feeling this is Juvenal, but I'm at home and I don't have a Juvenal - although I just bought a Leipzig Quintillian for 40p at the Trinity booksale! Looking in Lewis and Short, I see Juvenal 2.83 as well as Martial 1.40 quoted for a short o in nemo It isn't in

Re: VIRGIL: Line from Aeneid

1998-04-28 Thread Glenda Warren Carl
I believe the line you want is I.203, forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit. Glenda There is a line from the work where Aeneas says Someday we will look back on these days of tribulation, and we will laugh, or something to that effect. I would like to find out the book and line number of this

Re: VIRGIL: Context of A snake lurks in the grass

1998-04-28 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:42:00 -0400 From: Andy Lafrenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] This follows up on Randi Eldevik's comments about the coluber mala gramina pastus. Actually, the phrase occurs in Book II of the Aeneid, at line 471. Virgil (Vergil?) uses a snake motif a little earlier in the same

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil

1998-04-28 Thread MAARANI16
Sorry, I am a high school student taking AP Latin, I have a general idea of some similarties, I guess I need to go look up this Oxford Dictionary in the library, once again thanks for the advice Anjali --- To leave the Mantovano