Re: Was Re: VIRGIL: Aeneid "unfinished"? the Vergil lives and the manuscripts from his house

1998-06-22 Thread Leofranc Holford-Strevens
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes > It doe bring up something that has been bothering me for the last >few months, having read Horsfall's hatchet job on the lives, what does the >group believe is fact in the Suetonius/Donatus lives - and I suppose >Leofranc is the best

Re: VIRGIL: Silver Age

1998-06-22 Thread Leofranc Holford-Strevens
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JAMES C Wiersum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Just a note to say how much I appreciated the comment on the "Silver >Age." It was very insightful. How would Tennyson, who has been called >"virgilian," fit in though? Or, is this why Tennyson has always been a >bit suspec

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's view of the Underworld

1998-06-22 Thread Scott Pierce
Thank you, M. Taccheri and Ms.Conrad-O'Brian for the insightful comments re: Virgil's view of the Underworld. Yours etc., Scott F. Pierce ---Umberto Taccheri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can find a discussion about its debts to Orphism (and other > related religions and philosophies) i

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneid "unfinished"?

1998-06-22 Thread Scott Pierce
Dear Sir, thank you for the cogent, precise and succinct response to my questions. I'm speechless to realize that your answer comes from New Zealand! Although I've met students from your country, I've never been farther from home except a trip to the Continent, where i studied briefly in France d

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's view of the Underworld

1998-06-22 Thread Umberto Taccheri
You can find a discussion about its debts to Orphism (and other related religions and philosophies) in Vittorio Macchioro. _From Orpheus to Paul_ . New York: Holt, 1930. Old but informative. best, Umberto Taccheri [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Mon,

RE: VIRGIL: trecento reception of Roman d'Eneas

1998-06-22 Thread Colin Burrow
Cormier's the man, though there is a little in Baswell. This recent piece I have not read, it sounds very un-Italian I'm afraid: TI: Heinrich von Veldeke, 'Eneas'. A comparison with the 'Roman d'Eneas', and a translation into English - Fisher,RW AU: Zellmann_U JN: ZEITSCHRIFT FUR DEUTSCHE PHILOLO

Re: VIRGIL: Virgil's view of the Underworld

1998-06-22 Thread parcob
>I was teaching the Aeneid in a summers session on classical literature in >translation, and one of my students asked if Virgil originated his view of >an Underworld that seems to contain a precursor of the Christian Hell, or >if it already existed in Roman culture. Does anyone have an answer? > >

VIRGIL: trecento reception of Roman d'Eneas

1998-06-22 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Has anything been written about the reception of the Roman d'Eneas? I'm especially interested in trecento Italy. (Have posted a private query to Raymond Cormier on this, but suspect he's out of email range for the summer.) --- Dav

Was Re: VIRGIL: Aeneid "unfinished"? the Vergil lives and the manuscripts from his house

1998-06-22 Thread parcob
Dear Simon and all, I thought that was a good introduction to the problem - mind you I'm an Anglo-Saxonist, not a Vergil scholar. It doe bring up something that has been bothering me for the last few months, having read Horsfall's hatchet job on the lives, what does the group believ

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneid "unfinished"?

1998-06-22 Thread Simon Cauchi
Scott, you will doubtless receive more learned and thorough replies from the professional classical scholars, but here are some short answers, which I hope won't put you too far astray: 1. Does anyone know how incomplete the Epic poem is? What's unfinished about it? Not much. There are s

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneid "unfinished"? (reprise)

1998-06-22 Thread Simon Cauchi
I realize that my previous post suggests that (for example) the Bough and the Gate in Book Six offer merely "small problems" of interpretation. Well, dare I say it? I have come to think they are indeed small but insoluble textual problems, which make secure interpretation of the passages simply una