Re: VIRGIL: Reading the Aeneid

1999-02-03 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 10:00 PM 2/3/99 EST, you wrote: >I am reading the Aeneid and am in search of tools which will assist my >reading. I do not like cliff notes, I find them useless. Rather, I am >looking for guided questions or outlines for the various books of the Aeneid. >Any help would be greatly appreciated.

VIRGIL: Juno's supplication

1999-02-03 Thread Dan King
Sorry, this is probably a bit of a basic question. But I was shown recently how Juno's supplication at Aen 1.65-75 is , generically speaking, in the form of a standard prayer (is euktikon the right term, or kleticon?), but that certain topoi are omitted. Thus Juno does not invoke her past services

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread Gert De Ceukelaire
  In response to Jim Farrow and Diane Thompson:   > I would greatly appreciate sources for the later dating of them >... >A lot has been done on Dares since,>especially in Germany. The one name I can remember off the top of my head is>Willy Schetter, but there are others too writi

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, David Wilson-Okamura wrote: > Briquel, D. (1992) > Les légendes de fondation latines et l'initiation. > In: L'initiation. Actes du colloque international de Montpellier 11-14 > avril 1991. Études rassemblées par Alain Moreau. > Tome I: Les rites d'adolescence et les mystères.

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Jim O'Hara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Dr D P Nelis wrote: > >> I have a vague idea of having seen an article in a recent volume of the >> REVUE DES ETUDES LATINES on anti-Trojan historiography; perhaps by Dominique >> Briquel. >> Any

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread Harm-Jan van Dam
At 09:00 2-02-99 -0500, you wrote: > In response to Gert De Ceukelaire >query in re: Jacob von Maerlant's >Middle Dutch *Aeneid* -- > I suspect there is little doubt >that this tradition emphasizing the >treachery of both Aeneas and Antenor >arises from the Dares and Dictys tradition

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Gert De Ceukelaire wrote: > > I did some fairly extended research on the sources of Jacob van Maerlant's > version of the fall of Troy. Maerlant's History of Troy is in fact for the > moore part an adaptation of Benoit de Ste More's Roman de Troie, complemented > with seve

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Dr D P Nelis wrote: > I have a vague idea of having seen an article in a recent volume of the > REVUE DES ETUDES LATINES on anti-Trojan historiography; perhaps by Dominique > Briquel. > Any bells anyone? No bells from me, but I'd love to see this article, and thus add my ple

Re: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor

1999-02-03 Thread Gert De Ceukelaire
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-Van: Raymond Cormier [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Aan: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Datum: dinsdag 2 februari 1999 16:26Onderwerp: VIRGIL: Aeneas/Traitor   Many thanks to all