Re: VIRGIL: Is rap music the future of epic poetry

1998-10-20 Thread Jim O'Hara
Cf., on the similarities between epic flyting or abusive verbal contests (Diomedes, you're not the man your dad was) and the modern urban African-American "dozens" or "sounding", cf. Richard Martin, The Language of Heroes 65ff and Henry Louis Gates Jr The Signifying Monkey eg. pp. 68ff. Cf. too th

Re: VIRGIL: Is rap music the future of epic poetry

1998-10-20 Thread Natasha Golding
I must say: this interpretation is immensely refreshing and original. It is not often that two such polarised spheres are linked and even less often that they work. All I can say is thanks for sharing it. I think an interesting comparison is that of honour: the aidos/ kudos element of both the

Re: VIRGIL: Is rap music the future of epic poetry

1998-10-20 Thread wangal
Is Homer the first rap poet? First, a few comparisons: 1) use of sex and violence- all through the Iliad... = gangster rap 2) political edge- definitely in the catalogue of ship... = Public Enemy 3) stereotyping of women (beautiful prizes) - LL Cool J's girls = Achilles and Agammennon duking it ou