gt;>
>>>>>> One short comment on the logo. In it's current form, it's very inviting.
>>>>>> Many of the alternatives put forward (over the years) make it feel
>>>>>> corporate, distant, or generic. My CouchDB shirt (which is aging b
ouchDB shirt (which is aging badly)
>>>>> still gets compliments--from all kinds of people!
>>>>>
>>>>> There's something very promising about any product that might make one
>>>>> feel that relaxed, confident, happy, "chilling&quo
gt;>> There's something very promising about any product that might make one
>>>> feel that relaxed, confident, happy, "chilling"--especially in a space
>>>> (data management) where it's usually all stress, corrupted backups,
>>>&g
all stress, corrupted backups, latency, lag,
>>> and rejected writes and data loss.
>>>
>>> Mario doesn't want a fire flower. He wants to shoot fire balls and destroy
>>> goombas!
>>> http://bufferblog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> Alexander, BTW: I do not think it's an issue to have a slogan that
> someone else has used. Unless these people are also building database
> software, I don't think it's an issue (much like trademark law).
Hope that to be true unless we'll have
loss.
>>
>> Mario doesn't want a fire flower. He wants to shoot fire balls and destroy
>> goombas!
>> http://bufferblog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mario1.gif
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Keep up the greatness, all,
>> Benjamin
t;
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andy Wenk [mailto:andyw...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:26 AM
>> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: New motto?
>>
>> I like most in order:
>>
>> "Data where yo
..@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:26 AM
> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New motto?
>
> I like most in order:
>
> "Data where you need it."
>
> "Data wherever you need it."
>
> "Data everywhere”
>
> I l
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Andy Wenk wrote:
> "Data where you need it."
http://www.seismicexchange.com/
Click on Enter to site to see this slogan.
> "Data wherever you need it."
http://www.mccomaha.us/
Provided in the form: Your Data Wherever You Need It To Be
> "Data everywhere”
https:
2rz0iwlbqm4j1jn/couchdb_concept_art_16.pdf?dl=0
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rz0iwlbqm4j1jn/couchdb_concept_art_16.pdf?dl=0
> >
> >
> > I hope this helps cement some of the ideas that have been presented thus
> > far.
> >
> > Regards!
> > -- Nick Pavl
> -- Nick Pavlica
>
>
> On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 9:59:07 AM Joan Touzet <mailto:woh...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>> +1 to "Data, wherever you need it." though I think I prefer it with the
>> comma.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> Fr
On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 9:59:07 AM Joan Touzet wrote:
> +1 to "Data, wherever you need it." though I think I prefer it with the
> comma.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jan Lehnardt"
> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 20
eting@couchdb.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:25:39 PM
> Subject: Re: New motto?
>
>
>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 16:24 , Mike Broberg wrote:
>>
>> Just some ideas -- if only to kick this thread back up when people have
>> returned from Apacheco
+1 to "Data, wherever you need it." though I think I prefer it with the comma.
- Original Message -
From: "Jan Lehnardt"
To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:25:39 PM
Subject: Re: New motto?
> On 20 Nov 2014, at 16:24 , Mike Br
> Noah Slater ---11/07/2014 02:51:33 PM---Again: WHY are we all building this
> db with a sync protocol? What's the problem we're trying to solv
>
> From: Noah Slater
> To: Noah Slater
> Cc: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org"
> Date: 11/07/2014 02:51 PM
804
>
>
>
>
> From: Alexander Shorin
> To: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org"
> Date: 11/20/2014 10:31 AM
> Subject:Re: New motto?
>
>
>
> Database for Web.
>
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Mike Brob
oston, MA 02109
(m) +1 603 205 2804
From: Alexander Shorin
To: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org"
Date: 11/20/2014 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: New motto?
Database for Web.
--
,,,^..^,,,
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Mike Broberg wrote:
> Just some ideas -- if only t
ing to solv
>
> From: Noah Slater
> To: Noah Slater
> Cc: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org"
> Date: 11/07/2014 02:51 PM
> Subject: Re: New motto?
> --
>
>
>
> Again: WHY are we all building this db with a sync protocol? What
Mike
--
Mike Broberg | IBM Cloudant | 200 State Street, Boston, MA 02109 |
mbrob...@us.ibm.com | (617) 299-1409 Google Voice
--
From: Noah Slater
To: Noah Slater
Cc: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org"
Date: 11/07/2014 02:51 PM
Subject:Re: New motto?
Again: WHY are we al
onstrated.
> >>> Who are the people that would make CouchDB acceptable to the early
> >>> majority?
> >>>
> >>> Johs
> >>>
> >>> > On 08 Nov 2014, at 19:24, Joan Touzet wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
t; > On 08 Nov 2014, at 19:24, Joan Touzet wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Just to state that I'm not proposing "liberate" and that I don't
>>> > have any solid proposals to provide. I think Johs responded to me
>>> > when he meant to respond to No
;
>> > Just to state that I'm not proposing "liberate" and that I don't
>> > have any solid proposals to provide. I think Johs responded to me
>> > when he meant to respond to Noah. :)
>> >
>> > I don't have any particularly st
;re considering, however, and will
> > strive to fill in the gaps where I see them.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Noah Slater"
> > To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:33:07 PM
o: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:33:07 PM
> Subject: Re: New motto?
>
> I don't think we need a one word slogan. Not sure if anybody actually
> suggested that.
>
> I also don't think "Freedom" or "Liberty" sh
> I don't think we need a one word slogan. Not sure if anybody actually
> suggested that.
>
This can definitely go in either direction.
> I also don't think "Freedom" or "Liberty" should be the words we use.
> I very specifically thought that "liberate" was the word we ought to
> use because i
references to historical and
sociological context of terms we're considering, however, and will
strive to fill in the gaps where I see them.
-Joan
- Original Message -
From: "Noah Slater"
To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:33:07 PM
Subject:
I don't think we need a one word slogan. Not sure if anybody actually
suggested that.
I also don't think "Freedom" or "Liberty" should be the words we use.
I very specifically thought that "liberate" was the word we ought to
use because it describes what Couch lets you do. It lets you liberate
you
Joan,
“Liberate” has the right mixture of connotations and meanings for most of us, I
guess, but related to CouchDB, no, it’s so grand that it won’t stick.
Imagine a car manufacturer calling their new model “Liberate” or “Liberation”.
Or the creator of a new parfume. Or a a political campaign.
It
rability, etc.).
Just one guy's opinion...
Andy Ellicott
VP Marketing
Cloudant.com, an IBM company
200 State Street
Boston, MA 02109
(m) +1 603 205 2804
From: Noah Slater
To: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org" ,
Joan Touzet
Cc: Sean Barclay
Date: 11/07/2014 10:56 AM
Subje
s
Sean Barclay / Director, UX / IBM Cloudant / SF / 415.483.2373
From: Andy Ellicott/Cambridge/IBM@IBMUS
To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
Cc: Sean Barclay , Joan Touzet
Date: 11/07/2014 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: New motto?
Hi guys,
Maybe it's just me, but when I hear free
@couchdb.apache.org"
Date: 11/07/2014 02:51 PM
Subject:Re: New motto?
Again: WHY are we all building this db with a sync protocol? What's
the problem we're trying to solve? The answer to that is our marketing
pitch.
On 7 November 2014 20:50, Noah Slater wrote:
> Just t
ld
apps, regardless of device type.
Nice work.
Cheers
Sean Barclay / Director, UX / IBM Cloudant / SF / 415.483.2373
From: Andy Ellicott/Cambridge/IBM@IBMUS
To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
Cc: Sean Barclay , Joan Touzet
Date: 11/07/2014 10:25 AM
Subject:Re: New motto?
fist
> >>>
> >>> for a history of the political implications of that logo.
> >>>
> >>> As to Alex's comment, I like the riff on the French national motto
> >>> of freedom, equality and brotherhood (Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité).
> &
national motto
>>> of freedom, equality and brotherhood (Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité).
>>> Worth experimenting a bit more there.
>>>
>>> -Joan
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Alexander Shorin"
>>> To: m
t; Worth experimenting a bit more there.
>>
>> -Joan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "Alexander Shorin"
>> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
>> Cc: "Joan Touzet" , "Sean Barclay"
>> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2
Worth experimenting a bit more there.
>
> -Joan
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alexander Shorin"
> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> Cc: "Joan Touzet" , "Sean Barclay"
> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 11:50:11 AM
> Subject: Re: New
more there.
-Joan
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Shorin"
To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
Cc: "Joan Touzet" , "Sean Barclay"
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 11:50:11 AM
Subject: Re: New motto?
I think "Liberate" is good one for some Open Data
g/wiki/Google_Data_Liberation_Front
>>
>> Interesting (and rather provocative!) logo there.
>>
>> -Joan
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Noah Slater"
>> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org, "Javier Candeira"
>&g
.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Data_Liberation_Front
>
> Interesting (and rather provocative!) logo there.
>
> -Joan
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Noah Slater"
> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org, "Javier Candeira"
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:52:05 PM
&
Candeira"
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:52:05 PM
Subject: Re: New motto?
So, I just mentioned on dev@, but one of the angles I was thinking about was:
- Liberate your data
- Free your data
Perhaps with "The database that..." before either.
I think this "liberate" idea
ta autonomy
>>> Your data, your rules
>>> Puts your data back in your hands
>>>
>>> ^ Not slogans, just prompts.
>>>
>>> What's our why? If we find that, we'll have our slogan.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 October 2014 1
our slogan.
>>
>>
>> On 30 October 2014 19:45, Andy Ellicott wrote:
>>> I think I read something recently that there's more mobile than web app
>>> development happening these days, so "web" might end up sounding outdated.
>>>
>>> Random input:
&g
bs
>> from others. Feel free to reuse or take inspiration from that...or not :)
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Alexander Shorin wrote:
>>>
>>> Will repeat myself on IRC:
>>>
>>> &quo
> On 31 Oct 2014, at 11:17 , Alexander Shorin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>> FWIW, at CouchOne, we used “Your Data, anywhere.” for a while. There are
>> no claims attached to this as far as I can tell, and we could derive from
>> that.
>
> Doesn't Couchbase
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> FWIW, at CouchOne, we used “Your Data, anywhere.” for a while. There are
> no claims attached to this as far as I can tell, and we could derive from
> that.
Doesn't Couchbase has anything on it? They were CouchOne before.
--
,,,^..^,,,
FWIW, at CouchOne, we used “Your Data, anywhere.” for a while. There are
no claims attached to this as far as I can tell, and we could derive from
that.
> On 31 Oct 2014, at 11:05 , Alexander Shorin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Andy Wenk wrote:
>> On 31 October 2014 09:34, Alex
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Andy Wenk wrote:
> On 31 October 2014 09:34, Alexander Shorin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Nick North wrote:
>> > Your data - everywhere - all the time
>>
>> Squatted: https://pragprog.com/news/new-page
>>
>> P.S. Hi Nick! (:
>>
>
> I am a music
Thanks for pointing that out Alexander - I should have done a web search
first. In a way it's good to know that someone else likes the "everywhere,
all the time" idea enough to use it. Shame they thought of it first.
Nick
On 31 October 2014 08:34, Alexander Shorin wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014
On 31 October 2014 09:34, Alexander Shorin wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Nick North wrote:
> > Your data - everywhere - all the time
>
> Squatted: https://pragprog.com/news/new-page
>
> P.S. Hi Nick! (:
>
I am a musician and I write a lot of music these days. What I don't like is
s
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Nick North wrote:
> Your data - everywhere - all the time
Squatted: https://pragprog.com/news/new-page
P.S. Hi Nick! (:
--
,,,^..^,,,
e:
>
> > In New England, there's a restaurant chain called Bickford's.
> > Their motto is "Breakfast anytime." Short, simple, to the point.
> > (And now I want some pancakes, darn it!)
> >
> > What about "Data anywhere, any time"?
> >
> >
reakfast anytime." Short, simple, to the point.
> (And now I want some pancakes, darn it!)
>
> What about "Data anywhere, any time"?
>
> -Joan
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Noah Slater"
> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> Sent: Thu
"
To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:16:13 PM
Subject: Re: New motto?
Okay, so a while ago we had this discussion about what CouchDB's "why"
was. i.e. What's our purpose.
There are three questions we can answer, at various points in our
ma
>
>> "A database for the web" isn't good one since PouchDB is eventually
>> more "database for the web" than CouchDB now.
>> We need something more fresh, unique and collision safe as like as
>> "Time to relax!" was - it's hard to a
he web" than CouchDB now.
> We need something more fresh, unique and collision safe as like as
> "Time to relax!" was - it's hard to associate any other database with
> the same motto.
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Joan Touzet wr
e any other database with
the same motto.
--
,,,^..^,,,
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Joan Touzet wrote:
> Coming out of the logo discussion, it seems 2.0 may be the
> right time to consider a new motto, replacing "Time to relax."
>
> PouchDB is "The database that syncs
Coming out of the logo discussion, it seems 2.0 may be the
right time to consider a new motto, replacing "Time to relax."
PouchDB is "The database that syncs."
On http://couchdb.apache.org/ today, "A database for the web"
is the most prominent motto, bigger than
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