[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-19 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-19 04:36, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 23:39 +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: Now this is something we can work with. Tomorrow I will try to integrate this into the wiki, and as I have some time free I will launch into designing an artwork workflow and publication sy

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Marc Paré
I'll try to put some information that I think is pertinent and perhaps members will chime in and add other information of their own. The information needed is not for data but merely to help in establishing the structure; file format considerations etc. so that when the migration from the Silv

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Marc Paré
Thanks Italo: Le 2010-11-20 14:30, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 11/20/2010 07:58 PM, Marc Paré wrote: * Ideas: area where team members can chat in public as well as a private area; public and private mailist; white board area to comment on design graphs or to rough sketch live for examples ... c

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-20 16:22, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 11/20/2010 08:46 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Have you ever had an artwork contributor send a photoshop file for the team to look at? If so, the Drupal site Team Devs will test the site to make sure that there are no hiccups if this is ever done. The list

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-20 16:20, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 11/20/2010 09:04 PM, drew wrote: So of course the wiki is a tool that is going be used, but the process of design, as is ongoing here, and then implementation via a CMS, such as Drupal or Silverstripe for that matter, is precisely a mechanism for

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-19 04:36, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 23:39 +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: Now this is something we can work with. Tomorrow I will try to integrate this into the wiki, and as I have some time free I will launch into designing an artwork workflow and publication sy

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-21 05:13, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 03:50 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: We have been gently reminded that "marketing ideas" should reside on the "Marekting/ideas wiki pages. For the sake of consistency, could you add your idea to the http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-21 11:23, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 06:13 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: I propose that we keep the "ideas" section, but that we have two internal sections: one section for "design related ideas" and another with "marketing-related ideas". This will keep it simple and b

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-21 06:19, Michael Wheatland a écrit : I have created a workflow summary from the information gathered from this thread. In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would allow people outside of the design team to see examples of projects that the design team have comp

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-22 04:17, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:29 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working under the common understanding of Marketing and Design un

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 07:58 PM, Marc Paré wrote: * Ideas: area where team members can chat in public as well as a private area; public and private mailist; white board area to comment on design graphs or to rough sketch live for examples ... collaborative if possible (where other members can contribute

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread drew
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 20:30 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: > > * Workflows / Procedures: work in progress > > Again, work in progress should be on the wiki. > > The web site cannot contain work in progress, as it should be the > basic > source of information about TDF and LibreOffice, and people ar

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 09:04 PM, drew wrote: So of course the wiki is a tool that is going be used, but the process of design, as is ongoing here, and then implementation via a CMS, such as Drupal or Silverstripe for that matter, is precisely a mechanism for delivery of a system that performs in the way

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 08:46 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Have you ever had an artwork contributor send a photoshop file for the team to look at? If so, the Drupal site Team Devs will test the site to make sure that there are no hiccups if this is ever done. The list is not to support any of the files formats bu

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread drew
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 22:20 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: > I do not mind what happens before the publication on the web site Right - and that is the key descriptor, publication. Your speaking as if there is only one view of the web site, there is not when under the control of a CMS system. There i

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
I found it very hard to follow this conversation. Can we take a step back. The marketing list should not be the place for discussing website infrastructure. Quote of Initial email >Needed: Please feel free to add any individual team requirements for the final Drupal based website. All requirement

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 10:56 PM, Marc Paré wrote: This is what the Silverstripe and Drupal sites are all about. A one stop shop place where everything is available under one roof but also where all is built according to permissions to users as to what levels of the website they may work on or see. Then

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 03:50 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: > We have been gently reminded that "marketing ideas" should reside on the > "Marekting/ideas wiki pages. For the sake of consistency, could you add > your idea to the http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas > page? Sure, but shoul

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 11:49 PM, drew wrote: Your speaking as if there is only one view of the web site, there is not when under the control of a CMS system. There is a view that is published, official in other words Please remember that I behave like a user (and sometimes like a journalist) and not l

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Michael Wheatland
OK, Sorry this has taken a little while, but I have been busy with paid work over the last week more than normal. I have created a workflow summary from the information gathered from this thread. In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would allow people outside of the design t

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, all, it's hard to follow general decisions down in threads on Drupal. Marc Paré schrieb: [...] Now that we essentially have 2 groups: [Marketing] and [Design], do we want an "ideas" section in both? Or would we rather have on "ideas" section where we can see the whole range of ideas?

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Michael, * Michael Wheatland schrieb: [...] I have created a workflow summary from the information gathered from this thread. In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would allow people outside of the design team to see examples of projects that the design team have comple

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 20:49 +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: > In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would > allow people outside of the design team to see examples of projects > that the design team have completed, but that is the next step, we > need to build the groundwork

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 06:13 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: > I propose that we keep the "ideas" section, but that we have two > internal sections: one section for "design related ideas" and another > with "marketing-related ideas". This will keep it simple and both teams > will be aware of what projec

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all, Sorry if this might feel like an empty answer - but since I am travelling at the moment, I would like to avoid lengthly mails written on tiny keyboards. So just a: I do have some thoughts how some topic structuring might work. Both for the Design team stuff and the tooling like the wiki

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
Michael Wheatland wrote: It can be hard at times to trust another group with something you are dependant on, but I assure you that the system will be very functional and easy to use for non-technical people. This is not a problem for me. I am used trust others as I do not have a technical bac

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, Thorsten, * Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-11-21 11:23, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : [...] Design vs Marketing, yes. If you apply some of the broader definitions, you can both conclude that Design touches everything and also that Marketing touches everything. Originally marketing may have bee

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:29 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: > Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late > unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working > under the common understanding of Marketing and Design understanding. You mentioned philosophical

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:29 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: > Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late > unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working > under the common understanding of Marketing and Design understanding. You mentioned philosophical

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 01:28 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > I think they cover quite clearly what they want to say, so I'd keep them. If they would, there would be no question whether design should sit below marketing or not. There would be no questions if the logo or a brochure belongs to marke

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-24 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Italo, I feel a need to second your statements ;-) Am Sonntag, den 21.11.2010, 12:02 +0100 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > We cannot decide where people will navigate, and which information > they will access from which web site. Of course, we will cross > reference the two web sites, but I think tha

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-28 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/24/2010 10:57 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: The web site is not intended to please the people who belong to the community, but to attract new people (new community members, and new software users) and to communicate with stakeholders (individuals and companies/organizations interested in deal