Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, First reactions, on a quick read: Please don't put the technical justification API ABI break front center. Users don't care, and it will be a handicap the next time we want to bump major versions, even without an API break. Along the same lines, I'd remove the API/ABI FAQ. Better to be

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't put the technical justification API ABI break front center. Users don't care, and it will be a handicap the next time we want to bump major versions, even without an API break. Along the same lines, I'd remove

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Luis Villa
Or to put this in a tighter nutshell: firefox_developer we're going to rule (again) on mobile with a firefox product firefox_developer because we're all user-focused luis that was really my core critique of the GNOME 3.0 proposal luis it is '3.0 because gtk is 3.0' rather than '3.0 because of

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or to put this in a tighter nutshell: firefox_developer we're going to rule (again) on mobile with a firefox product To be clear, 'rule' here was meant as 'kick ass', not 'have power'. Luis -- marketing-list mailing list

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Alex Hudson
Luis, Luis Villa wrote: So, yeah. When we've figured out how to make people tell it's a damn upgrade, get back to me, until then, calling it 3.0 is a bad idea. Sorry again for the stop energy, but when I see things plunging off a cliff, and a huge opportunity wasted, I think it has to be

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa wrote: I'm sorry to be so negative, but this is a lousy idea and I think that needs to be said. Do not repeat the mistakes of early 2.0 (before we got our act together) and KDE 4.0. Be patient; just because Topaz is unlikely to happen (I agree) is no reason to rush out and

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Luis, I think you were being a little harsh - GNOME's been lethargic for so long, you're expecting to see us sprinting, when we're still at the stage of learning to walk again. I'm expecting us to walk and *then* talk

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Dave Neary
Luis Villa wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Luis, I think you were being a little harsh - GNOME's been lethargic for so long, you're expecting to see us sprinting, when we're still at the stage of learning to walk again. I'm expecting us to

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:33:08AM -0700, Luis Villa wrote: Or to put this in a tighter nutshell: firefox_developer we're going to rule (again) on mobile with a firefox product firefox_developer because we're all user-focused luis that was really my core critique of the GNOME 3.0 proposal

Re: Issuing a press release about GNOME 3

2008-07-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:22:31AM -0700, Luis Villa wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Luis, I think you were being a little harsh - GNOME's been lethargic for so long, you're expecting to see us sprinting, when we're still at the stage of