Re: About The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initative

On 4/23/07, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff, your communications would sound more sincere and less glib if you > stopped loading them with meaningless words like 'rock' 'awesome' and the > like. Tough. That's the way I talk. Fair enough. I suppose that's just a cultural diffe

Re: About The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initative

On 4/23/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Dave for being brave. Your email hurts. I like it. No pain, no cure? From the Personas project to the CMS election and everything in between (release notes, GNOME Office, GNOME slogan...) I personally got tired of investing more time in dis

Re: About The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initative

On 4/23/07, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like someone else said, it's a chicken and egg situation. It's not: Go and do something awesome! Jeff, your communications would sound more sincere and less glib if you stopped loading them with meaningless words like 'rock' 'awesome' an

Re: About The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initative

On 4/23/07, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Thilo, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > a) I do not like that this was not discussed at all in the marketing > list. Such major things and announcement have to be discussed with at > least the marketing team > we are going into new directions witho

Re: About The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initative

On 4/21/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No relation between the people working on the wgo revamp andthe organizations supporting the launch of GMAE. Or do you see a link? Please explain. Perhaps Thilo means that there should have been. GMAE changes the scope of GNOME quite dramatical

Re: wgo/get_started/on_ms_windows

On 3/12/07, Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So the questions are: What do you want to be said about Gnome? Is it GNOME or Gnome? What is Gnome anyway? If I don't get answers to these soon, I will make it up. Gnome is a delicious cream cheese sandwich filling I'm s

Re: Signing off our target audience (was Re: Example of targetted release notes)

On 3/26/07, Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes. True. But as GNOME is no company noone can tell anybody to do something specific. Rubbish. We need to get out of this 'nobody can tell anyone waht to do' mentality. It's bad for us. Plenty of volunteer organizations have managers,

Re: Signing off our target audience (was Re: Example of targetted release notes)

On 3/26/07, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thilo Pfennig wrote: > So I like to suggest that "we" talk about who "we" are. Can we not, please? There is so much easy obvious stuff (which I think we can all agree on) to do in terms of outreach like? We need to get our head out of marke

Re: Maybe help ease the pain of 2.20 release notes?

On 3/17/07, Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/15/07, Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The other problem with the release notes is that we do them backwards. > We should be thinking about the 2.20 release notes NOW, not in 6 months. > We should be plann

Re: Maybe help ease the pain of 2.20 release notes?

On 3/15/07, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Designing release notes: the Fedora experience: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/019may06/features/documentation_design/ In journalism, a beat is an area of coverage that one or a few writers focus on. It might be politics in the local govern

Re: wgo/get_started/

On 3/13/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/12/07, Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aha! I see them now! Sorry. > > I've been finding plone quite hard to get around; didn't realize those were > > pages within this section. > > Mmmmw

Re: wgo/get_started/on_ms_windows

On 3/12/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, you don't need to create any section or page, all this has been done already. Have you checked http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ ? :) Aha! I see them now! Sorry. I've been finding plone quite hard to get around; didn't realize those were pag

Re: GNOME or Gnome?

On 3/12/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In fact the useful link is the folloup of that one: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-April/msg00439.html Meh, mailing lists. But really, we have better things to discuss now. :) Indeed. -- marketing-list mailing list

Re: GNOME or Gnome?

On 3/11/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: GNOME Some people find pleasure through the pain... :) Wikipedia cites: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-April/msg00436.html If I'm writing the About page, I get to call the shots. ;) -- marketing-list mailing list mark

Re: wgo/get_started/on_ms_windows

On 3/11/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joachim, it would be great if you could stick to one of the sections you were responsible of (choose your preferred one) and then go for writing and reviewing until you get the section done. The writing process will go faster if w

Re: wgo/get_started/on_ms_windows

On 3/8/07, Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So let those people write rough notes & ideas on that page NOW. Then I can use that as raw material and make something nice :) Second call. I can write pretty fast, but I'm just making stuff up here. Could people who KNOW st

GNOME or Gnome?

Just wondering. Typing it in caps each time is a pain in the neck :p -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: wgo/get_started/on_ms_windows

On 3/6/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/6/07, Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > doesn't it seem odd to be > discussing pages here, when the whole point of collaborative work > environment like a wiki or CMS is that instead of discussing content we can

Re: wgo/get_started/on_ms_windows

On 3/6/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We need to make sure that we don't tell lies at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/get-started/ms-windows-compatible (GNOME software is not automatically compatible with Windows) and we need to explain the rationale behind this Windows compatibility so po

Re: GNOME Project Organogram

On 2/13/07, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 11:59 +, Joachim wrote: > > > But for this to happen, we need the HIG to be updated, and for that to > > happen I think we need library.g.o up and running. > > Anyway, I really do inte

Re: GNOME Project Organogram

Now, this is broken. Some examples of things that should be indispensable, but are not: * usability designers (not post-implementation usability testers) should be indispensable to every screen of UI we write I suggested some time ago that there should be a UI design team that coders can turn to

Re: GNOME Project Organogram

On 2/11/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for missing this email with this interesting organigram. Your proposal is totally code-centric, considering GNOME only code and circunven ti it to the Release Team. It's a perspective and probably nobody can tell you it's wrong. However, wh

Re: gnome tour mockup

On 2/9/07, Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello. I started working on the artwork for the "Take the Tour" section, since Quim started threatening my family... he he... it's when you find a horse's head in your bed you have to really worry ;) So, here are some *very* early mock

Re: Release notes and wgo revamp

On 2/4/07, Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:43:25 + Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are no writers to create the content. There is content at the current WGO. In fact, lots of content. That was the point of my initial mail.

Re: Release notes and wgo revamp

On 2/4/07, Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe, it's better to look straight at the facts: Moving to the Plone system now will just make things worse. Try doing it for 2.20 There are no writers to create the content. There is no indication that waiting 6 months will produce writers

Re: What's happening with writing content?

--- Ramon Navarro Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sends the mail but I saw : > > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > relay=relay.upc.es[147.83.2.50]:25, > conn_use=17, delay=25359, delays=25342/17/0/0.07, > dsn=4.1.8, > status=SOFTBOUNCE (host relay.upc.es[147.83.2.50] > said: 553 5.1.8 > <[EMAIL P

Re: What's happening with writing content?

atively, is there a time when you're on IRC and you can just tell me the password? > > En/na Joachim Noreiko ha escrit: > > --- Ramon Navarro Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > >> The URL : https://gnome.jardigrec.eu > >> > &g

Re: What's happening with writing content?

--- Ramon Navarro Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The URL : https://gnome.jardigrec.eu > > The login details : username : jnoreiko > > I reseted the password that should be sended to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I haven't received it -- could have got eaten by yahoo's spam filter. Could you send

Re: What's happening with writing content?

--- Ramon Navarro Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi , > > I added the editors Quim said to me on the devsite ( > gnome.jardigrec.eu > ) where they can began adding content on english. I get 'Error 503 Service Unavailable' And anyway -- what are the login details? __

What's happening with writing content?

Nothing seems to be happening here of late. I'm aware that we have deadlines coming up, and that there's a few goals I'm supposed to be in charge of. Problem is, I have no idea what the status of our CMS setup is, or where I'm supposed to go do actually start putting in some content. Could someone

visibility at the user level (was: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?)

--- Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/24/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When a user boots Ubuntu, they see the Ubuntu > splash, > > the Ubuntu desktop backgro

Re: Fwd: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

--- Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I don't really see "blocking". I think we will > not increase > awarenesss of GNOME from our website. The websites > are a mess - but > whoever visits GNOME websites has at least some idea > of why he visits > these pages. I mean that working

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

--- Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So besides GnomeWeb where many people are already > involved and acting > - if we consider our goals what is our main > problem? > > * Increase awareness of GNOME. > * Increase the user base of GNOME > * Making it easier for GNOME users to become G

Re: gnome revamp banner

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can ve invest your contributing energies and design > qualities in real > deliverables? :) I'd really like it someone did a new version of the banner for the marketing team: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing Unless we simply decide we don't need a b

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

--- Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > That's something we need 'glue-people' for -- > > developers who are on several teams or hop between > > them. > > 'Glue people' is exactly how I would characterise

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

--- Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The marketing team should define an overall goal > for GNOME. We should > > not just invent slogans. We also should not try to > "sell" GNOME. I > > think that we do not want that because than we > would want people to > > use GNOME instead of KDE o

Fleshing out our pages

I've done a bit more on the page list for the About and Get Involved sections. Get Started is still do to, if anyone wants to have a go. These summaries are pretty basic, so please add more to them if you think it's needed. When can we actually start writing pages on the CMS? I know the skins & a

Re: wgo Tour: which pages?

--- Alex Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 14:36 +, Joachim Noreiko > wrote: > > No. > > 10x10 is a pipedream and Topaz is nothing more > than a > > big dump of crazy ideas on the wiki. > > That's a bit harsh. &

Re: wgo Tour: which pages?

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 14:36 +, Joachim Noreiko > wrote: > > --- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What about inserting here a page about > Innovation & > > > Roadmap... GNOME >

Re: wgo Tour: which pages?

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about inserting here a page about Innovation & > Roadmap... GNOME > shaping its future. That would be good. If that was something GNOME did. > What else? Perhaps mentioning the 10X10 and Topaz > would make sense here > as well. No. 10x10 is a p

Get Involved / Store

GNOME Store is listed in the list of pages for Get Involved: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoGetInvolved Is the idea that this page IS the store, or is it a page that leads to the store? If the latter, how can we make it a page that's actually useful? (In other words, NOT a page that says 'Oh. Y

Re: GNOME : Get involved

--- Djihed Afifi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 11:44 +, Joachim Noreiko > wrote: > > I still wonder why > > we need an external site to promote GNOME. To me > it is > > a symptom of a > > GNOME and gnome.org failure. The wgo re

Re: GNOME : Get involved

--- Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Catching up late in the game is sometimes > unsettling. So here I was > trying to grasp the spread of the tasks and FIXMEs > and ToDo when I > chanced upon this subtask: > > Spread GNOME -- is this an existing endeavour or > something we'r

Re: Getting started on WGO content

--- Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > > Bear in mind that GnomeWeb/WgoGetInvolved is the > > planning page for one of several pieces of WGO > content > > we have to work on. > > I sort of assumed it as su

Planning for each release

Just seen this: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty Isn't this the sort of thing we were saying needs to be done for each gnome cycle, so we know what we're aiming for, and the marketing team knows what a release's focus will be? Send instant messages to your online friends http:

Re: Getting started on WGO content

--- Hugh Buzacott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > > and I'm thinking 'Yikes... How are we going to > do > > > this?' > > > > /me raises a tentative hand for volunteering. > However, I am new to this > > so would require some precise guidance and work in > reasonab

Re: Header design mock 11/10

--- Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - (Wearing noob user's hat) Some of the links seem a > bit vague, e.g. > what's the difference between the News link and the > news I'm looking at > on the home page, and why should I ever need to > visit an About page-- > shouldn't all the other page

Header design mock 11/10

Commenting on the latest design here: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/33555.html I think it looks fantastic. Big improvement on the previous version (and I liked that one anyway). (http://mihmo.livejournal.com/33530.html) It looks much more open and brighter. The separation of the general navbar and

Getting started on WGO content

Hi all. I've taken on the task of co-ordinating three of the goals that are concerned with creating pages of the new www.gnome.org: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoGetStarted http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoGetInvolved http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoAbout The first two in particular are p

Re: community.gnome.org (was Re: [Fwd: GnomeWeb 2.18 goals])

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 09:34 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > What on earth is community.gnome.org? > > As for today it is a launcher from the general nav > bar to the "GNOME is > People" subsites: > > * Planet GNOME > * GUADEC and other ev

Channel interference (was GnomeWeb 2.18 goals)

--- Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there we come back to the problem of > parallel channels. I > think it is important if you add content to a page > that you tell why > this is listed. My impression was that these things > were already > discussed but now my impression is that this li

Re: [Fwd: GnomeWeb 2.18 goals]

--- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Those ideas never needed to be in opposition, > but were pushed that way. > > > They are not mutually exclusive. > > > > Fair enough. But then what's your objection? > Using the projects.g.o > > subdomain? > > Yes. It's unnecessary. > > >

Re: [Fwd: GnomeWeb 2.18 goals]

--- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those ideas never needed to be in opposition, but > were pushed that way. They > are not mutually exclusive. Fair enough. But then what's your objection? Using the projects.g.o subdomain? > > > > That doesn't have to imply Yet Another > Subdomai

Re: [Fwd: GnomeWeb 2.18 goals]

--- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > How is projects.gnome.org back on the agenda at > all? > > > > Well, we could just delete all the current > projects pages ;) Some of them > > are unmaintained and some duplicate things we want > to say elsewhere. But > > the various app team

Re: [Fwd: GnomeWeb 2.18 goals]

--- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * projects.gnome.org - > GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages . I want to update > > this page and see if we find a 2.18 > solution that satisfies > > Jeff. > > * support.gnome.org . Hopefully Luke will > want to take on this. > >

wgo subsection goals

I've taken on three of the wgo subsections goals. However, I'm not entirely clear on what the goals entail. I presume we're going to decide how many pages we want in this section, what each one is about, and write the text? I've set up a goal page for the first of them: http://live.gnome.org/Gno

Re: Because you have better stuff to do than fixing your computer

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we borrow the "Just Works! (tm)" slogan? *somewhere* on the wiki I wrote an idea for a slogan, but I can't find it. I think it was something like "Your computer, simpler". ___

Re: GnomeWeb 2.18 release cycle

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2.18 GnomeWeb update: > > Greg, do we have news about the CMS selection? We > start needing a > solution since we have the prototyping phase around > the corner and it > would be good to start working with the final CMS. > > > Next Wednesday we have an

Re: Updated "Why choose GNOME" leaflet

--- Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > --- Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Andreas and I have been working on improving the > >> "Why choose GNOME" > >> leaflet

Re: Updated "Why choose GNOME" leaflet

--- Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas and I have been working on improving the > "Why choose GNOME" > leaflet for the upcoming LinuxWorld Expo in London, > UK. So far, we have > come up with the following draft: > . > > We're now

Re: [Fwd: XHTML 1.1 or 1.0?]

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is stated in that document that all pages should > conform to XHTML 1.1. I think this is a bad idea > unless you want to keep out Internet Explorer users > since XHTML 1.1 requires the web server to send the > MIME type application/xhtml+xml instead o

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

--- Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's a lot of stuff people talk about on pgo. > What do you think? > > That release notes writers have nothing better to > do than taking notes > > about stuff developers say somewhere on the > Internet? > > Well, it's my primary news source to k

Re: Screenshot link on frontpage

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 12:43 +0100, Joachim Noreiko > wrote: > > > "Overview" is a synonym for "About". > > Overview -> What we do > Subpages: 10 Steps | Screenshots | Videos > > About ->

Re: Screenshot link on frontpage

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SUMMARY: you convinced me in one point and now I > think that "Overview" > is better than "Take the Tour" in the primary nav > bar - see > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation > > Good point. After some research I think that > "Overview" is a bett

Re: wgo scope and general goals

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A suggestion to fix a couple of planning documents > before the 2.16.1 > deadline (4/oct). > > If you look at > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoScope and the > General > Goals at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Goals you > will see that both > lists hav

Support in new WGO structure

Quim, I really like the changes you've made to the new structure plan at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure My only concern is how deep down you've placed Support. I can see that Support is not worth a top-level link, because it's only a page of links to the forums and the mailing li

Re: Screenshot link on frontpage

--- Martin Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen the various mockups for the Gnome > website, and I think > that one of the most important features is a visible > link named > Screenshots. Doesn't "Take the Tour" satisfy that? > Being a 100% Linux user for more than 7 years it is >

Re: WGO Revamp: Look and Feel

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to show all these > feet in the primary nav bar. > We are used to see GNOME feed all around but how > would it look like to > new users? I was thinking the same, it's a bit too heavy having the foot on each navbar item.

Re: WGO Revamp: Look and Feel

--- Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Using Lee's site structure wireframe mockup, I put > together another > iteration of the WGO look & feel mockup: > > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/LooknFeel > > Below I'm going to highlight some issues and bring > up some questi

Re: Layout Plan

--- LeeTambiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Secondary Page layout is now centre aligned on > the page[1]. Should > we apply the centre align to the home page also, at > current it is left > aligned. I think the home page should also be centre > aligned like the > Apple site[2]. I agre

Re: LayoutPlan Clarification

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joachim, "too many", "heavy" or "impression" are > relative aspects that > might vary substantially depending on the final > look. In > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2006-September/m

Re: LayoutPlan Clarification

--- LeeTambiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did think this too, but have come to like the > idea, lets give the > secondary menu bar as a horizontal component a shot. > See > http://www.apple.com/ and look at the menu bar at > the top. Vision the > Top row as the Primary Bar, and the bar below

Re: LayoutPlan Clarification

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are doing everything thinking primarily in our > primary audience, > defined at > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/UseCases#head-f5818f5557175b3c85695eae3325131566b11c98 > > Good that you mention Web Personas. I was waiting a > good moment to > request

Re: LayoutPlan Clarification

--- LeeTambiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The breadcrumb component has been dropped, and pages > have been updated > have been updated. I have added a new version of the > secondary page > "layoutPlanSecondaryPage0.3.svg". Download the .svg > from > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PageStructure.

Re: Secondary Navigation Bar

--- LeeTambiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahh, I refer to the main top bar as the GENERAL > NAVIGATION BAR, the bar that access's the gnome > subsites subsites. Oops, I see I got my terms mixed up. How about we call them: * GNOME navigation bar -- takes you to different subsites in the GNOM

Re: Secondary Navigation Bar

--- LeeTambiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seems to be confusion here so lets clarify. The > component your are > discussing on bugzilla "New Bug", "Browse" etc is > not the secondary Nav > bar but the primary navigation tool. See the Layout > at: > > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PageS

Re: Secondary Navigation Bar

--- Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 05:36:07PM +0100, Joachim > Noreiko wrote: > > > > --- Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Things on the left/right side will not work for >

Re: Secondary Navigation Bar

--- Lee Tambiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quim's suggestion is to have the Secondary Bar > Component placed under the Primary Navigation Bar, > however I think this will create too much clutter > towards the top end of the page. I agree. It will be very heavy on the eye, and hard to underst

Re: Secondary Navigation Bar

--- Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Things on the left/right side will not work for > Bugzilla. It is just too > wide to be usable. Aren't we only talking about w.g.o at the moment? Beneath the common primary navbar, and perhaps the header banner[*], a subsite such as bugzilla can d

Re: Planet GNOME block (was Re: Page Layout Update)

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ((PS: what worries me now is that we seem to be > stuck with the site > structure and the CMS selection... that is where our > energies should be > concentrated now)) I'd appreciate a hand with the site structure plan, I've been pretty busy lately.

Re: User oriented release notes

--- Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Next, do you even have enought overview on the > rather extensive GNOME > platform? I know I don't. Well someone sure as hell needs to. ___ Now you can scan emails quickly

Re: User oriented release notes

--- Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The > 'users == grandma' > myth already hurt us several times (think Spacial > Nautilus, GNOME > Screensaver, etc.) Spatial Nautilus is excellent. And GNOME Screensaver is NOT a grandma product, because it uses abstract concepts such as "session" an

Re: User oriented release notes

--- Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Concerning your "vision" stuff: This looks like > bullshit to me. Maybe > I've seen to many clueless marketing people speak > like that, and my > impression is wrong. However, it looks like > bullshit. Sorry. :-( I think that 'vision' is one of thos

Re: User oriented release notes

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Integrate marketing and ""business"" visions with > the technical vision > that is guiding the 2.18 release. Since day zero. > Someone > needs to think what these bodies need and how the > next release is going > to help them, be useful to them. I

Re: Epiphany Homepage

--- Luca Cavalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko > wrote: > > > Another option could be to create a > > > Gnome start page just > > > for the purpose of using it as home page in > > > Epiphany. &g

Re: Epiphany Homepage

--- Max Jonas Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but there's one thing that irritated me: The > Epiphany home page is > "http://www.google.com"; per default. > > Wouldn't it be better to set it to > "http://www.gnome.org/start/X.YY"; for > every release? No, because that's release notes. As i

Re: wgo homepage structure

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lee is doing a nice work with components and pages > structures at > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/LayoutPlanning > > Have a look to this no-look&feel proposal of wgo > homepage structure: > http://www.leetambiah.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/downloads/layoutPla

Re: A brief on the focus on Performance improvements in Evolution 2.8 for GNOME 2.16

--- Claus Schwarm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunatly, I probably not a developer myself so I > had to guess > wildly about the meaning of some notes. Developers need to write human-readable release notes. > My first try is available here: > > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointFifteen/R

Re: 2.16 slogan and banner

--- Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another funny banner. > > I paraphrased "falling in love" and came up with > this: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/gnome-banner-falling.png > It's a fun idea! Just a couple of points: - looks like there's two spaces in the text between 'in

Re: 2.16 slogan and banner

--- Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's version 07d: > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/gnome-banner-07d.png > > Removed the themes icons and changed the VERSION to > v and brought the > text closer. > > I have to note that I like the verbose 'VERSION' to > v2.16 though :) I'm

Re: 2.16 slogan and banner

--- Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And here's is a test with Gnome specific icons: > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/gnome-banner-05a.png > The power manager icon at the front works well. The eye is drawn to the arrow & epicentre on the globe, so that might be something to think

Re: Navigation bars (was Re: wgo layout planning)

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have started with the navigation, as planned: > > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation Looks good! > > About the wgo nav bars... Joachim, do you consider > the > GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure is already a final draft? &

Re: 2.16 slogan and banner

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the theme Clarius, Apparently, that's just a new name for Clearlooks. ___ Does your mail provider give you FREE antivirus protection? Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com --

Re: 2.16 slogan and banner

--- Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cleaned up the "Your way home" a bit, and made a > "Simply Powerful" > one, with a planetary touch. > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/gnome-banner-03.png > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/gnome-banner-04.png > Nice. I like the backdrop. But

Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- writing the release notes front page > >- writing the start page > >+ if we want a press release > > Still no feedback about my proposal to have these > three pages in a > single one. Less work for probably a better result. I hadn't seen t

Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)

--- Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- writing the start page: it should be quite > easy, but we can improve > it. See [3] for an example. I've not included a start page in the plan for the new WGO structure ( http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure ) I can't see what it

content and scope of www.gnome.org

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GOALS FOR 6/SEP - 2.16 RELEASE > > All the goals are related to planning only: > > - Define the content and scope of www.gnome.org I'm not terribly good at this sort of thing, but my first attempt is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoScope Please

cms test: problems with eZ and tiki

I've had a go on Midgard, Drupal, and Plone. eZ: I've create a login, but the email still hasn't arrived. I can't log in. Tiki: I can log in, but I don't have sufficient permissions to actually do stuff. ___ Copy addresses

Re: Testing the cms candidates

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We need people with time to go through the checklist > linked above, yes. > They don't need to be CMS experts since the > maintenance of wgo should be > feasible for non CMS experts (at least the most > frequent actions). Ok. Consider me your non-expert

Re: Testing the cms candidates

--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This: > Thanks Jeff. No more volunteers, though. And this: > Want to help? You still can join us. Do you need people to sign up to the CMS test sites and try them? I've already registered on the Midgard test. _

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