Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread michael perelman
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have a revolutionary proposal. All of us pledge to devote a year to get together

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: "Don't you agree that aggregate fin

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Shane Mage wrote: Whoops! it was MMBKG2 and not Dani

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: ===

Re: [Marxism] 'what to do with the labor theory of value?'

2013-05-12 Thread michael a. lebowitz
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == MMBKG2 wrote: 'After listening to their economics panel of Laibman, Foley, and

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread james pitman
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == "So what, 'your' interpretation basically thinks Marx wasn't really doing political

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == GDI is determined by accounted market values. Market values vary chaotically and the

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread MMBKG2
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > Hahahaha, nice try, but everyone thinks they take Marx's critique of > political

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: Shane Mage wrote: These are b

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: ==

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane Mage wrote: > These are both entirely empirical sums--alternative measuremen

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: There is no answer to that. No

[Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane Mage: > Instead of handwaving with thirty-dollar words Here's another thir

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It does talk about market prices, but as an hypothesis to be confirmed. There is not

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == There is no answer to that. No mathematical demonstration. The labor content of a mo

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Market prices is the most supe

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: Shane Mage: Recognition of

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Market prices is the most superficial layer in Marx's analysis and it is only in app

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane Mage: > Recognition of the fact that values cannot be expressed without mone

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 12, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Angelus Novus wrote: From the perspective of the "m

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-12 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == "MMBKG2" wrote: > why taking Marx's critique of political economy at face value is

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-11 Thread MMBKG2
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Can you explain to me: a) why taking Marx's critique of political economy at face v

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-11 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == David wrote: > That would not be so bad. At least it is empirically useful unlike

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-11 Thread David P Á
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 11/05/2013 18:44, Angelus Novus wrote: FWIW,I think TSSI is stuck in the paradi

Re: [Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-11 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > It looks like it will take a full-blown generational paradigm shift to > even a

[Marxism] 'What to do with the Labor Theory of Value'

2013-05-11 Thread MMBKG2
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I'm usually quite impressed by WeAreMany.org's many talks and videos from the Socia